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Bossa Nova 28.02.2020 00:07

Applying for naturalization with a history of parking/traffic offences
 
Hey everyone,


I will soon be eligible to apply for Swiss citizenship, but I am hesitating to do so, and am looking for some advice.


During a period of several years while I was living here I had some fairly severe mental health problems (with doctor's note, arręt de travail, etc.) and during this period I accumulated several debts/unpaid bills, including small traffic-related offenses (parking tickets and minor speeding fines, never more than 5 km/h over the limit).



The late payments were not due to lack of funds, but due to lack of ability to do pretty much anything. This was not the best period of my life.


My problem is that during this period of unwellness I was hardly even capable of using a computer. So a 40.- CHF parking or speeding fine became rappels (reminders), and second reminders, and even registered letters for a bill of 270.-, which included the original 40.- CHF fine plus late fees, admin fees, etc.


In the end everything has been paid in full and I'm pleased to report that I'm happy and healthy, but I'm deathly afraid that my history will pose a problem should I decide to become a Swiss citizen. Late fees for an electricity bill are one thing, but late bills for a fine from the police are another. I've always lived in the same place since I arrived, so the police know that I've had all these late payments. I've never had a poursuite, just inexcusably late payments for minor traffic offenses.


Does anyone know exactly what information is taken into account by your commune/the police when it comes to traffic offenses and late bill payment?


Vielen dank en avance

pfirsichaehnlich 28.02.2020 02:54

Re: Applying for naturalization with a history of parking/traffic offences
 
Dent extract from betreibungsampt is the only record.

Yours is probably clear or you can get it cleaned up easily given the circumstances. Get the extract as a starting point.

omtatsat 28.02.2020 08:00

Re: Applying for naturalization with a history of parking/traffic offences
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bossie (Post 3152097)
Hey everyone,


I will soon be eligible to apply for Swiss citizenship, but I am hesitating to do so, and am looking for some advice.


During a period of several years while I was living here I had some fairly severe mental health problems (with doctor's note, arręt de travail, etc.) and during this period I accumulated several debts/unpaid bills, including small traffic-related offenses (parking tickets and minor speeding fines, never more than 5 km/h over the limit).



The late payments were not due to lack of funds, but due to lack of ability to do pretty much anything. This was not the best period of my life.


My problem is that during this period of unwellness I was hardly even capable of using a computer. So a 40.- CHF parking or speeding fine became rappels (reminders), and second reminders, and even registered letters for a bill of 270.-, which included the original 40.- CHF fine plus late fees, admin fees, etc.


In the end everything has been paid in full and I'm pleased to report that I'm happy and healthy, but I'm deathly afraid that my history will pose a problem should I decide to become a Swiss citizen. Late fees for an electricity bill are one thing, but late bills for a fine from the police are another. I've always lived in the same place since I arrived, so the police know that I've had all these late payments. I've never had a poursuite, just inexcusably late payments for minor traffic offenses.


Does anyone know exactly what information is taken into account by your commune/the police when it comes to traffic offenses and late bill payment?


Vielen dank en avance

https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/portal/...setzungen.html

"You have no entries in the criminal record or ongoing criminal proceedings."

Its getting much more difficult to get Swiss citizenship.

pfirsichaehnlich 28.02.2020 08:19

Re: Applying for naturalization with a history of parking/traffic offences
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pfirsichaehnlich (Post 3152110)
Dent extract from betreibungsampt is the only record.

Yours is probably clear or you can get it cleaned up easily given the circumstances. Get the extract as a starting point.

I can't edit my typo, I must be new here :msngrin:

"Debt" extract is what I meant, if you haven't got a Betreibung or Poursuite (would have come from an office in your commune) you are fine.

Maybe you could thank Richard for this useful post
https://www.englishforum.ch/daily-li...-pay-them.html

omtatsat 28.02.2020 08:24

Re: Applying for naturalization with a history of parking/traffic offences
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bossie (Post 3152097)
Hey everyone,


I will soon be eligible to apply for Swiss citizenship, but I am hesitating to do so, and am looking for some advice.


During a period of several years while I was living here I had some fairly severe mental health problems (with doctor's note, arręt de travail, etc.) and during this period I accumulated several debts/unpaid bills, including small traffic-related offenses (parking tickets and minor speeding fines, never more than 5 km/h over the limit).



The late payments were not due to lack of funds, but due to lack of ability to do pretty much anything. This was not the best period of my life.


My problem is that during this period of unwellness I was hardly even capable of using a computer. So a 40.- CHF parking or speeding fine became rappels (reminders), and second reminders, and even registered letters for a bill of 270.-, which included the original 40.- CHF fine plus late fees, admin fees, etc.


In the end everything has been paid in full and I'm pleased to report that I'm happy and healthy, but I'm deathly afraid that my history will pose a problem should I decide to become a Swiss citizen. Late fees for an electricity bill are one thing, but late bills for a fine from the police are another. I've always lived in the same place since I arrived, so the police know that I've had all these late payments. I've never had a poursuite, just inexcusably late payments for minor traffic offenses.


Does anyone know exactly what information is taken into account by your commune/the police when it comes to traffic offenses and late bill payment?


Vielen dank en avance


You should really consider whether its worth it to get a Swiss pass.

Axa 28.02.2020 11:16

Re: Applying for naturalization with a history of parking/traffic offences
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by omtatsat (Post 3152112)
https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/portal/...setzungen.html

"You have no entries in the criminal record or ongoing criminal proceedings."

Its getting much more difficult to get Swiss citizenship.

I'm not a lawyer, but I'd guess crime refers to killing or hurting people, people or drug trafficking, money laundering, etc.

ankurm.2008 28.02.2020 16:10

Re: Applying for naturalization with a history of parking/traffic offences
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Axa (Post 3152161)
I'm not a lawyer, but I'd guess crime refers to killing or hurting people, people or drug trafficking, money laundering, etc.

You'll be surprised how many people in Switzerland land up in 'criminal' register for excessive speed/drink driving


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