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Frontalier Status For Non-EU Spouse of EU National?

Hi there,

Thank you for all the great info shared on this forum. I've been reading through heaps of posts and think I understand things properly, but would love any thoughts / clarification from those who know much better than I do.

My situation: I am an EU citizen (I have a Netherlands passport, but am currently based in Canada). My wife is Canadian. She is in the final stages of negotiating over a new job offer in Geneva. We would like to live in France while she works in Geneva. I will not be working (for the first while, anyway).

I understand that non-EU citizens can't usually get frontalier status, but that it may be possible if married to an EU national. Is this accurate? If so, this would definitely make a massive difference for us.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated - cheers!
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Re: Frontalier Status For Non-EU Spouse of EU National?

As a non-EU she does not have direct access to the Swiss labor market and the employer would have to go through the usual non-EU hiring restrictions.

Assuming she gets her own independent non-EU permit, frontalier status would only be granted if she has permanent residency in France and has lived in bordering communes for the past 6 months.

Non-EU restrictions would only be lifted if you, as an EU, move first with your own Swiss job offer.
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Re: Frontalier Status For Non-EU Spouse of EU National?

Oh, okay. Thanks, qwertz - that's too bad.

She will have no problem with a non-EU permit through her employer as it's a large international non-profit that hires people from around the world as a regular course of action.

I was hoping that since I am an EU national we might have the option of basing ourselves in France, but if not we'll have to look at living in Geneva.

Cheers!
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Re: Frontalier Status For Non-EU Spouse of EU National?

If it's an NGO then your wife would not be subject to Swiss immigration restrictions and would be on a carte de legitimation issued by the Swiss Federal Department of Foreign Affairs. It is up to the French authorities to decide whether your wife has a right to reside in France (which you do have as an EU).
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Re: Frontalier Status For Non-EU Spouse of EU National?

That's great info - thanks, qwertz. It is actually an NGO, but I wasn't aware of the carte de legitimation or how that works. This is all happening pretty fast.

I will learn more and see if I can find out the possibility of living in France under that status. Cheers
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More on carte de legitimation here

https://www.dfae.admin.ch/dam/missio...%20anglais.pdf
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If it's an NGO then your wife would not be subject to Swiss immigration restrictions and would be on a carte de legitimation issued by the Swiss Federal Department of Foreign Affairs. It is up to the French authorities to decide whether your wife has a right to reside in France (which you do have as an EU).
NGO means Non-Governmental Organisation. Most of these do not qualify for a cdl.

Governmental Organisations; UN; WHO: WIPO; WMO; etc do qualify for cdl.

Don’t forget, if she lives in France she will need permission from the French - even if she has a cdl.
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NGO means Non-Governmental Organisation. Most of these do not qualify for a cdl.

Governmental Organisations; UN; WHO: WIPO; WMO; etc do qualify for cdl.

Donít forget, if she lives in France she will need permission from the French - even if she has a cdl.
Ah, interesting. Ok, she'll be talking to the people doing the hiring in the next day or two. They should be able to clear this up for us whether she's eligible for CdL or not - looks like she probably won't be after all. Thanks for the reply!

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