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Old 04.03.2020, 21:09
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Permit B denied (EU citizen)

Hi,

I know this question has been asked plenty of times throughout the years yet none were specific enough for my case. I thought I will share my situation and hopefully receive some useful feedback.

I recently received a letter stating that I was not eligible for a Permit B due to the fact I didn't earn enough money ( basically stating I may take advantage of the financial assistance.)

A few details about myself:

I am an American citizen with an EU citizenship (Sweden).

Currently living in the Canton of Vaud.

Work between 20% to 100% because it's an on-call job (22CHF/hourly).

Don't pay rent or pay for food during the week because I also do various jobs for the home owner of who's house I live in ( in exchange for the free living and food.)

Pay Swiss health insurance

Enrolled in French courses A1

Working on receiving a personal training certification

No degrees just many years of work experience.

In a serious relationship with a Swiss girl ( the main reason for coming to Switzerland)

Questions:

If I am capable of sustaining myself while living here without the need of financial assistance, is there anyway I can convince or prove my eligibilty to receive a permit B?

If my request of a permit B is denied more than twice, can I try again?

I truly appreciate your input
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Old 04.03.2020, 22:19
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If I am capable of sustaining myself while living here without the need of financial assistance, is there anyway I can convince or prove my eligibilty to receive a permit B?

It is not a quest of whether you are capable of sustaining yourself or not, it is question of whether you met the criteria of having established economic viability on a permanent basis and clearly you have not.
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Re: Permit B denied (EU citizen)

The thing is: you want something from them. Therefore, you have to meet the criteria they set. They issue permits to those who meet their criteria.

In that, it doesn't matter to them that you yourself are comfortable with living frugally.

You have a huge advantage in having EU citizenship! The way for you to get a permit is to get enough employment to prove to the Swiss immigration authorities that you are a safe bet for them. That means realiably earning the level that they set, and living in a place of which they approve.

As soon as you do that, your permit will be almost guaranteed.
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The thing is: you want something from them. Therefore, you have to meet the criteria they set. They issue permits to those who meet their criteria.

In that, it doesn't matter to them that you yourself are comfortable with living frugally.

You have a huge advantage in having EU citizenship! The way for you to get a permit is to get enough employment to prove to the Swiss immigration authorities that you are a safe bet for them. That means realiably earning the level that they set, and living in a place of which they approve.

As soon as you do that, your permit will be almost guaranteed.

That's a reasonable argument. Would you happen to know what is considered a sufficient salary in order for my application to have the slightest chance of approval?
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Re: Permit B denied (EU citizen)

it's also down to your employer - if they are paying well below the 'market rate' for the work you do and not giving you a guaranteed monthly salary they are exploiting you and you are basically undercutting a local from getting a job. There has to be some sort of limit on cheap, desperate, foreign workers.



Oh, and your USA citizenship is not what your permit is based on - clearly it's Swedish or you wouldn't have been allowed in without a proper work contract.


You can ask the authorities what the base line salary is - and then ask your employer to guarantee that minimum salary or you need to find another job... generally for a single person a basic liveable salary is around 4000chf/month.
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Generally I find, they want you to have a contract of at least 50%. If you donít have that (ie a zero hours contract) people have been asked to show considerable savings in order to get a permit.
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