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Old 04.04.2020, 23:05
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But the OP is not stranded in Switzerland, he could get back to the UK- a big difference.
His wife can't enter the UK (and they don't have a home to go to there) and he can't enter China.
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His wife can't enter the UK (and they don't have a home to go to there) and he can't enter China.

Yes, this is exactly the predicament. Unless splitting families is now okay.
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Old 04.04.2020, 23:34
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Re: EU force majeure overstay

Oh? I thought, Mo N, that you have your regular residence in China. Are you now not allowed to enter China? Or is China closed even for citizens (your wife) and residents (you)?
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Old 04.04.2020, 23:40
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Oh? I thought, Mo N, that you have your regular residence in China. Are you now not allowed to enter China? Or is China closed even for citizens (your wife) and residents (you)?
China's current entry restrictions: https://www.china-briefing.com/news/...-an-explainer/

According to the announcement, foreigners who hold the following visas, even valid ones, are not allowed to enter China now:

Chinese visa;
Residence permit;
APEC business travel card; and/or
Port visa.
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Re: EU force majeure overstay

Thank you, Island Monkey, that was the missing bit of the puzzle, for me.

Do you know if there are similar restrictions for France, Germany and for the UK?
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Do you know if there are similar restrictions for France, Germany and for the UK?
Nope, if you are resident in any of those countries you can go home. Perhaps 2 weeks of quarantine depending on from where one comes, but from Switzerland one can drive/fly to those countries.
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China's current entry restrictions: https://www.china-briefing.com/news/...-an-explainer/

According to the announcement, foreigners who hold the following visas, even valid ones, are not allowed to enter China now:

Chinese visa;
Residence permit;
APEC business travel card; and/or
Port visa.
Thank you IM - so yes, a very difficult situation. In which case, I'd advise to go and discuss this with the Commune/Gemeinde and ask for advice. Perhaps EF is not the best place for such a unique and difficult situation. Bonne chance.

The current restrictions started on March 28 - so my initial point was that it is a pity the OP and wife could have gone back until very recently. Many friends and family all over the world travelled back home in time- cutting short their visit to do so.
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Multiple flight cancellations & re-bookings.
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The current restrictions started on March 28 - so my initial point was that it is a pity the OP and wife could have gone back until very recently. Many friends and family all over the world travelled back home in time- cutting short their visit to do so.
It appears that the OP was trying to go back earlier as stated in this post.

Airlines were cancelling and restricting flights well before March 28.


Good luck to the OP it is a very tricky situation to be in. Calling the commune or migrations office would seem to be the best course of action to me. Even though most offices are physically closed unless one has an appointment they are still operating by phone.
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Yes, this is exactly the predicament. Unless splitting families is now okay.
It would appear splitting families is okay. On the news this evening they showed people meeting at the Swiss-German border which is presently fitted with a tall fence. Some of those meeting are couples, some are families like siblings and adult children and parents.

Right now Switzerland won't let anyone in if they're not already a citizen or resident (or from Liechtenstein), so that means family living across the border can't come visit. Same going the opposite way.

I do think that since the visa is valid until May, OP will need to prove he's been trying to find a solution in order to receive a sympathetic response.
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Re: EU force majeure overstay

I'm in a rather unpleasant situation. Wife and daughter in the UK (my wife has just naturalised as British - terrible timing). They were going to come over any time now, but looks like it's going to be mid June. I guess there a lot of families in a much worse situation so I shouldn't complain.
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Calling the commune or migrations office would seem to be the best course of action to me. Even though most offices are physically closed unless one has an appointment they are still operating by phone.

It seems in Geneva that they aren't even operating by phone. There is a voicemail that I'm guessing just directs you to fill out the OCPM form online (https://www.ge.ch/en/contact-ocpm).


Just beware that even though the form claims to be in English the drop-down selections are not.
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Old 06.04.2020, 19:42
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Just beware that even though the form claims to be in English the drop-down selections are not.
If there are parts of the form that you can't understand, with deepl or google translate, please feel free to post those parts here, and perhaps someone here can explain them to you.
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Re: EU force majeure overstay

Is this a form that an EU overstay would fill out?
https://www.ge.ch/document/ocpm-form...ur/telecharger

This is what COMP has linked to me but it doesn't seem to apply.
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Really get in touch with the British Embassy, and the Commune 'contrôle des habitants where you are staying. Another issue is medical insurance- are you both covered in any way?

You mentionned your wife has filled in this form - has she got a reply? It doesn't really apply to you as EU, as you did not have a Visa in the first place. Dont ask on EF- none of us are specialist in complicated immigration issues. Hope you get it sorted, but get in touch with the Office mentionned on the form you linked to. If you can't get through, send a recommended letter explaining your situation.
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