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Old 22.04.2020, 15:24
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Non EU B Permit - Job Role or Company Change - YES, another one :)

Hey all -

I'm coming up on two years here in Zurich and my permit (non-eu B) is up for renewal again (renew every year). After two years I'm thinking about what my next steps are and what the future holds for me, just doing long term career planning, etc..

So, I was researching about changing jobs and even the ability to change roles and how that would affect my permit.

Based on my own crude research (mostly from this forum) I came up with this: Non-EU B permit is tied to your job/company and any changes you would have to start the process over - and prove that there is no one in the EU that could do the job, etc... (I wasn't sure about changing roles within the same company)

However - I recently got my renewal paperwork and I asked the immigration lawyers this same question and this was their response: "Your permit is not linked to your employer. Therefore you can change role and company"

While good news, it seems counter to everything I have been reading. So - I guess my ask to those that have been around a while, what gives? Was I wrong in everything I've been reading? What circumstances allow for job changes vs. those that don't. Just trying to get an understanding.

(I have asked for clarification from the lawyers as well).

And for those that may ask, my permit says this:

On the Front: aufenthaltsbewilligung(B)
On the Front: Mit Erwerbstätigkeit
on the back: selbst. Erwerbstätigkeit ist bewilligungspflichtig (which translates to self employment requires permit)

Thanks in advance for any input - and if the lawyers get back to me, I'll update!
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Old 22.04.2020, 16:16
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Hey all -

I'm coming up on two years here in Zurich and my permit (non-eu B) is up for renewal again (renew every year). After two years I'm thinking about what my next steps are and what the future holds for me, just doing long term career planning, etc..

So, I was researching about changing jobs and even the ability to change roles and how that would affect my permit.

Based on my own crude research (mostly from this forum) I came up with this: Non-EU B permit is tied to your job/company and any changes you would have to start the process over - and prove that there is no one in the EU that could do the job, etc... (I wasn't sure about changing roles within the same company)

However - I recently got my renewal paperwork and I asked the immigration lawyers this same question and this was their response: "Your permit is not linked to your employer. Therefore you can change role and company"

While good news, it seems counter to everything I have been reading. So - I guess my ask to those that have been around a while, what gives? Was I wrong in everything I've been reading? What circumstances allow for job changes vs. those that don't. Just trying to get an understanding.

(I have asked for clarification from the lawyers as well).

And for those that may ask, my permit says this:

On the Front: aufenthaltsbewilligung(B)
On the Front: Mit Erwerbstätigkeit
on the back: selbst. Erwerbstätigkeit ist bewilligungspflichtig (which translates to self employment requires permit)

Thanks in advance for any input - and if the lawyers get back to me, I'll update!
I also have a un-restricted B permit nearly a year now. Ran the same search last month. Bottom line - changing jobs within the canton would be fine but if you move to another canton the process restarts for non EU folks.
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Re: Non EU B Permit - Job Role or Company Change - YES, another one :)

if you started directly with a B permit (looks like this is the case for you) when you took this job in Switzerland then most likely your permit is not tied to your employer.
the information about whether you can change jobs or not (indirectly meaning if your permit is tied or not) will be provided in the accompanying letter you or your employer would have received when you got the B permit first time


As a last resort, I think each canton provides a form which you can fill and send asking whether your permit allows to change jobs or not and they will send back a written confirmation. but I don't know if there is special permission needed to take up a job in another canton.


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Re: Non EU B Permit - Job Role or Company Change - YES, another one :)

Once, before you got the credit card document, you should have gotten some sort of confirmation on an A4 sheet, which mentions the permit code, employer name and also it has graphs validity from/to. In the case if there was only a start date, but no end date, you have an open permit.

The best thing is to write an e-mail to the cantonal AWA (AWA of the canton where you work, not live) asking for clarification, they will write you back. In Zurich they have a form for that which you can send by post.

It is not uncommon to get an open B permit for non-EU straight away, if your specialty is considered deficient and/or local language knowledge is at high level. It is not written anywhere as a regulation, but from my experience these things may affect the decision of the authorities.
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Re: Non EU B Permit - Job Role or Company Change - YES, another one :)

Hi @BostonToZurich


Did you get a confirmation on what is possible to do in that case?


I'm also in the same boat as you and wish to change job in the near future. Are we allowed to do so in our current Canton without any hassle?


Thanks
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Hi @BostonToZurich


Did you get a confirmation on what is possible to do in that case?


I'm also in the same boat as you and wish to change job in the near future. Are we allowed to do so in our current Canton without any hassle?


Thanks
It’s pretty much as everyone stated above, here it’s he exact response from the lawyers:

“Regarding your below questions: In most of the cases permits of non-EU nationals are indeed linked to the employer. In those cases the back of the permit normally contains a note like "change of position or employer requires authorisation". As this is not mentioned on your permit I checked the labour market decision which also do not contain any note on this regards. I called the authority to double check and the officer confirmed that your permit is not linked to [Employer]”

I hope that helps!
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