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travelerworker 24.04.2020 14:08

Working in Switzerland and living in Germany
 
Hi, I am creating this post because I have been trying to find information on an official Swiss website and couldn't find it.
I am contacting the authorities but meanwhile, I would like to know if anybody here had a similar experience.

Let's suppose that a person has a residence permit B, she is from England, and has a job contract in Switzerland. She wants to rent and live in Germany and commute to her work in Switzerland daily.

Some people told me: because of your residence permit, you HAVE to live in Switzerland. Some other people told me that this is irrelevant, you may want to travel from Japan every morning if you want.

So I am trying to get an official answer to this. Do you have any experience on this? any link to share?
Thanks!

3Wishes 24.04.2020 15:40

Re: Working in Switzerland and living in Germany
 
Welcome to the Forum. :) I don't know the answer and it might change with all the Brexit stuff, so have a bump and someone more knowledgeable should be along soon. :)

aSwissInTheUS 24.04.2020 15:57

Re: Working in Switzerland and living in Germany
 
You would need a cross border worker permit G instead of permit B.
Permit G is easy to get for EU/EFTA citizens and not so easy for all others.
https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...willigung.html

As 3Wishes says. The big question is how UK nationals are treated. Now and in the future.

If you intend to live in Germany and work in Switzerland you should be aware about all the formalities and pitfalls with health insurance and tax.
https://www.grenzgaenger.de/

Guest 24.04.2020 16:09

Re: Working in Switzerland and living in Germany
 
Could work if you move to Germany now and get a permanent residence status there and apply for a G permit beginning of November and don't work here in between.

roegner 24.04.2020 16:16

Re: Working in Switzerland and living in Germany
 
Quote:

Could work if you move to Germany now and get a permanent residence status there and apply for a G permit beginning of November and don't work here in between.
Afaik you get a permanent residency only after 5 years? As long as OP moves while the UK is still considered EU this might work

Guest 24.04.2020 16:21

Re: Working in Switzerland and living in Germany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roegner (Post 3175142)
Afaik you get a permanent residency only after 5 years? As long as OP moves while the UK is still considered EU this might work

Yeah, my fault I was running ahead of a possible new status of England.

travelerworker 24.04.2020 16:50

Re: Working in Switzerland and living in Germany
 
Hi, thanks for the answers, especially the link for https://www.grenzgaenger.de/ I will contact them for sure.

Maybe they can help me find the official information.
It is still not clear, with official sources, if holding a B residence permit one can live somewhere else. What if in this case she prefers to fly from London every single day?

3Wishes 24.04.2020 17:01

Re: Working in Switzerland and living in Germany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by travelerworker (Post 3175163)
Hi, thanks for the answers, especially the link for https://www.grenzgaenger.de/ I will contact them for sure.

Maybe they can help me find the official information.
It is still not clear, with official sources, if holding a B residence permit one can live somewhere else. What if in this case she prefers to fly from London every single day?

By its very name, a residence permit implies the person resides where the residence permit is issued. ;) :) A G permit is a cross-border work permit.

Edit - if she lives in London, she's not a resident in Switzerland. She would use a G permit to fly from London every day.

aSwissInTheUS 24.04.2020 17:48

Re: Working in Switzerland and living in Germany
 
Having a permit B but having the actual habitual residency abroad can lead to very nasty double taxation, social security, and customs issues.
Permit G is the correct permit if your habitual residency is abroad.

By law permit B expires 3 month after taking up a habitual residency abroad. Art. 60 FNIA. https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...index.html#a61
Coming back to Switzerland just for business or other visits will not extend this three month period. Art.79 VZAE https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...index.html#a79

Medea Fleecestealer 24.04.2020 17:54

Re: Working in Switzerland and living in Germany
 
G permit EU nationals

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...g_eu_efta.html

G permit non-EU nationals

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...willigung.html

travelerworker 24.04.2020 19:43

Re: Working in Switzerland and living in Germany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aSwissInTheUS (Post 3175185)
Having a permit B but having the actual habitual residency abroad can lead to very nasty double taxation, social security, and customs issues.
Permit G is the correct permit if your habitual residency is abroad.

By law permit B expires 3 month after taking up a habitual residency abroad. Art. 60 FNIA. https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...index.html#a61
Coming back to Switzerland just for business or other visits will not extend this three month period. Art.79 VZAE https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...index.html#a79

This is what I needed, thank you !:msngrin:


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