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Moving from Zurich to Ticino: C-permit question

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I currently live in Zurich on a 5-year B-permit.
In less than an year, I would have my 10th anniversary living in Switzerland, therefore qualifying for the C-permit, based on the requirements for my home-country and also getting closer to meeting the citizenship requirements (10 years + the period I was on L-permit, if I got this right).
However, I am planning to move to Lugano/Paradiso, which would negatively impact my citizenship score (would have to spend 5 years living in Ticino, including some years in the certain municipality etc.).
My question is whether this move would have any impact on getting a C-permit? I couldn't find any requirement to have a certain period of time spent in canton Ticino in order to get the C-permit, so I presume I could live there for less than an year on B- and once I complete the 10th anniversary, apply for the C-permit?
And my first couple of years on L-permit also contribute to the overall 10-year period, don't they?
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Re: Moving from Zurich to Ticino: C-permit question

Sorry, I tried to edit my post, but couldn't - just wanted to clarify that language requirements are not an issue in my case.
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Re: Moving from Zurich to Ticino: C-permit question

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My question is whether this move would have any impact on getting a C-permit?
And my first couple of years on L-permit also contribute to the overall 10-year period, don't they?
I won't reply directly because I have no direct experience, but the applicable law is:
https://www.admin.ch/opc/it/classifi...index.html#a34
Art. 34, other languages available on the same site.
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Re: Moving from Zurich to Ticino: C-permit question

Great, thanks - it seems that both L- and B-permits count.
Actually, it seems that I could even apply for the C-permit before the 10th year, given there is a 'good cause'.
The only good cause I could think of was not being taxed at source, which would not work, of course...any idea what this could be?
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Re: Moving from Zurich to Ticino: C-permit question

Here the requirements for C in canton zurich.
https://ma.zh.ch/internet/sicherheit...lligung+IW.pdf

To get C with 5 years on B you need good knowledge of the local language, no debts, a job, and be "integrated". Similar rules in Ticino.

If you fulfill this criteria, do the language test and apply for C right now. Permit C is forever.

For regular naturalization you need permit C, minimum 10 years of residency in Switzerland, min. 5 years in Ticino, and min. 3 years in the commune you apply for citicenship..

In canton Zurich you just need the federal 10 years and min. 2 years in the commune.

Be aware that permit L does not count for citizenship residency.

If citizenship is important you might think about renting a small room in Ticino and keep your main residency in Zurich (Wochenaufenthalter).
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If citizenship is important you might think about renting a small room in Ticino and keep your main residency in Zurich (Wochenaufenthalter).
And move permanently to Ticino after citizenship approval (ca. 1.5 years).
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Re: Moving from Zurich to Ticino: C-permit question

OP's profile says he speaks Italian. If he doesn't speak German then maybe a move is more worthwhile in terms of C, even though it resets the local timeline for citizenship?
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Re: Moving from Zurich to Ticino: C-permit question

Yes, I am kind of fluent in Italian (C1, maybe), and not so much in German (A2, I guess), however I have not taken any tests, have no certificates etc.
Actually, I do not see any practical benefit from getting the C-permit, except for not being taxed at source (which would be great!), and I need it to further pursue the citizenship, of course. Saying this, my motivation to move has nothing to do with these papers - it's much more personal.
Anyway, it seems I could move there in app. 3 months, spend a few more months there (until I reach the 10-year threshold) and then go for the C-permit (after I take a language test).
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