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B Permit, working for Swiss company, but living in a EU coutry?

I live in Switzerland with a B Permit, and am working for a Swiss company (remote work). I'd like to move abroad to a EU country so I can live with my girlfriend until she is able to find a job in Switzerland. But i'd like to keep my Swiss address.

At first it seemed like a G Permit is what I need, but I don't know if that makes sense if I still have a Swiss address.

I would prefer to keep my B Permit, and keep my Swiss address. I would still pay my Swiss health insurance, bills, and someone would take care of my mail. But my country of residence would be elsewhere.

Can I have a B Permit at all if my country of residence is considered to be somewhere else?

From what I can tell, B Permits expire after 6 months if I'm not in the country. Is it OK if I just return for like a weekend every 6 months? I also saw someone say that if you work in Switzerland you can request to extend this limit to 4 years, but I don't think that's correct (seems like they review each request and only accept under certain conditions?).

I'm also not interested in doing anything legally dodgy. Would never want to risk having my permit cancelled.

I found some other threads, but the situations seem a bit different. This one seems like they're not working while abroad:
https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...ne-know-2.html

And this one seems
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Old 26.05.2020, 12:10
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Re: B Permit, working for Swiss company, but living in a EU coutry?

If you want to keep the B permit then you need to keep CH as your official country of residence. We've worked that way for ~20 years, having a house in France but also a Swiss address (or two, at times). As long as you can show that you spend more than a certain number of nights per year at the Swiss place then you should have no problems.

I can't remember now what the limit is, but in practice one is never asked. Prior to the bilateral agreements that codified this it did cause us some problems, as by both countries' rules we were classed as resident, so the French Douanes used to be very keen to catch out people on Swiss plates, but I've never had any issue from them in the last 15 years or so.

As far as the Swiss are concerned you're still resident there, pay your health insurance there, taxes, pension contributions etc. there, so they have no issue with you spending a large amount of your time away. Just don't tell them, they have no reason to ask.
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Re: B Permit, working for Swiss company, but living in a EU coutry?

I think I've read something like this in the forums already - but I'd also be careful with your company.

There are some legal requirements for where you are working. I don't know/understand the details, but for example during this pandemic our entire company was work from home.

However, HR specifically stated that you could not go back to your "home" country to wait it out with family etc.

There is defiantly some grey area with room to wiggle.. but maybe worth investigating with your company, but then again- that could tip them off an blow your entire operation...
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Old 26.05.2020, 13:20
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If you want to keep the B permit then you need to keep CH as your official country of residence. We've worked that way for ~20 years, having a house in France but also a Swiss address (or two, at times). As long as you can show that you spend more than a certain number of nights per year at the Swiss place then you should have no problems.
Do you also have a B permit? And do you try to come to Switzerland at least every 6 months? Any change you could tell me an approximation of how many days a year you usually spend in Switzerland?

Thanks for the answer, very informative.
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Re: B Permit, working for Swiss company, but living in a EU coutry?

Minimum number of days for residency is 183.

What you need to check is whether the other country has something similar to the G permit that you could get.
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Minimum number of days for residency is 183.

What you need to check is whether the other country has something similar to the G permit that you could get.



It's more complicated than that.
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Minimum number of days for residency is 183.
Where can I read about this? Can't seem to find any info related to these 183 days on official websites.
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Re: B Permit, working for Swiss company, but living in a EU coutry?

OK this is the closest I can find: http://live-in-switzerland.com/e/faq...-resident.html

Makes perfect sense. I guess a some people just don't respect this limit then? I'd probably not want to risk it though.
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If you earn enough and your girlfriend is EU she could move in with you tomorrow.
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Re: B Permit, working for Swiss company, but living in a EU coutry?

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With the current COVID status, if she lives in Austria or Germany - she can come to visit, not to move in. Otherwise she even can't come to visit
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With the current COVID status, if she lives in Austria or Germany - she can come to visit, not to move in. Otherwise she even can't come to visit
Yeah, my bad. I'm used to all those dutch driving back and forth and passing every bordercheck without any problem even tho the rules say "nope" seems to me like border patrol is running ahead of the dropping of restrictions.
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Give me your email so I can send you her CV
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Do you also have a B permit? And do you try to come to Switzerland at least every 6 months? Any change you could tell me an approximation of how many days a year you usually spend in Switzerland?

Thanks for the answer, very informative.
Was on a B permit for the first few years, auto-converted to C after five years, but that was still before the bilateral agreements had been implemented.

As stated elsewhere, the threshold is 183 days (6 months + 1 day), and it's assumed that this means overnight stops.

For most of that time we were commuting into Basel every day, but we had a flat there and later one in canton OW, which we moved to as our official residence. We never actually counted the number of days, though.

I've been semi-retired (i.e. I don't have a full-time job) for a few years now, so things are a little different and perhaps not so relevant.
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