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UN CDL and spouse

Hello there, we are moving to Geneva soon for me to take up a UN job. Grateful for any ideas or leads on these questions for a CDL holder / professional band:

First question: I understand my UN salary is tax free on a CDL (I think it will be band D). I/we also have outside income from property and investments/shares in the UK. We read that CDL holders in CH could be taxed on worldwide income. The agency could not give us any advice or clarification if this applies to me on a CDL. We spoke to two Swiss accountants who gave opposite views on this. Any experience with this?

Second question: if my husband works remotely for a UK company / does not enter the Swiss job market whether he needs to get a Ci permit and pay Swiss tax?

Any tips or experience with either item would be greatly appreciated!

Many thanks
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Re: UN CDL and spouse

Welcome to the Forum.

In order for your spouse to live here with you, he needs a residence permit. That's likely going to be a dependent Ci permit, even if he works remotely for a UK company. See here:
https://www.eda.admin.ch/missions/mi...ily-staff.html

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A special permit, named "Ci" permit, will be issued for this purpose by the cantonal authority concerned (see details below) upon the presentation of a work contract, a contract proposition or a declaration stating the desire to take up an independent activity. A Ci permit is also delivered when the person is working for an employer based in a foreign country (for example via the "teleworking").
He'd also need to pay taxes on worldwide income and then use tax treaties to whatever benefit possible. From the same page (emphasis mine):
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The holder of a "Ci" permit nevertheless continues to enjoy all of the privileges and immunities to which a member of the family is entitled, except that which concerns their gainful employment:
  • if they enjoy diplomatic status, they do not enjoy civil and administrative jurisdiction immunity in case of claims related to their gainful employment,
  • is subject to tax on the income from gainful employment,
  • is subject to social insurance (AVS/AI/APG/AC and LLP) and to accident insurance insofar as gainful employment is concerned,
  • the EU/EFTA national who is family member of a career staff member of an EU/EFTA permanent mission is subject to health insurance in accordance with the provisions of the Agreement on Free Movement of Persons.
In terms of your tax, AFAIK it's only your UN salary that's tax-exempt, not your entire worldwide income. I imagine you'd file taxes together as a married couple residing in Switzerland, but your UN income would be exempt. Try the Permanent Mission for more info on how worldwide taxation would work in your situation:

https://www.eda.admin.ch/missions/mi...e/en/home.html
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Re: UN CDL and spouse

Taxes. Your spouse (and you) will be liable for taxes on your worldwide income, but note there is an incremental tax system here. The more you earn the higher your rate of taxation.

As you are married you must declare as a couple, not two individuals. To determine the rate of taxation that applies to your husband your salary will be added to his income. This likely will put him in a higher tax bracket. Although the tax doesn't apply to your salary it will affect his rate of taxation.

Bummer, I agree, but that is how they interpret the rules.
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Re: UN CDL and spouse

THANKS! Appreciate your insight and advice here, cheers

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Welcome to the Forum.

In order for your spouse to live here with you, he needs a residence permit. That's likely going to be a dependent Ci permit, even if he works remotely for a UK company. See here:
https://www.eda.admin.ch/missions/mi...ily-staff.html

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He'd also need to pay taxes on worldwide income and then use tax treaties to whatever benefit possible. From the same page (emphasis mine):


In terms of your tax, AFAIK it's only your UN salary that's tax-exempt, not your entire worldwide income. I imagine you'd file taxes together as a married couple residing in Switzerland, but your UN income would be exempt. Try the Permanent Mission for more info on how worldwide taxation would work in your situation:

https://www.eda.admin.ch/missions/mi...e/en/home.html
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Re: UN CDL and spouse

Thanks so much! Appreciate your feedback here

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Taxes. Your spouse will be liable for taxes on his worldwide income, but note there is an incremental tax system here. The more you earn the higher your rate of taxation.

As you are married you must declare as a couple, not two individuals. To determine the rate of taxation that applies to your husband your salary will be added to his income. This likely will put him in a higher tax bracket. Although the tax doesn't apply to your salary it will affect his rate of taxation.

Bummer, I agree, but that is how they interpret the rules.
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