Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Permits/visas/government  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 25.11.2020, 20:53
aSwissInTheUS's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Zurich area
Posts: 12,480
Groaned at 98 Times in 87 Posts
Thanked 19,021 Times in 8,454 Posts
aSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Home country withhold my passport :: 3rd world country matter

Quote:
View Post
Sorry for misunderstanding. FYI, I am working on Upwork dot com and I have an Freelance agency account there. As a freelance worker, I am thinking myself as a Self-employed. My friend is dealing with 2 clients in Germany and France. At first I will visit him, then we will visit our clients office together.
You did register as self employed with the canton Zurich social security office?
https://svazurich.ch/unsere-produkte...rwerbende.html
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank aSwissInTheUS for this useful post:
  #22  
Old 25.11.2020, 20:57
Island Monkey's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wallis
Posts: 4,780
Groaned at 81 Times in 48 Posts
Thanked 4,844 Times in 2,275 Posts
Island Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Home country withhold my passport :: 3rd world country matter

Quote:
View Post
And I suspect you are in breach of your student permit since it doesn't allow you to be self-employed. You can only work for Swiss employers and only with permission.
Soon he’ll have no permit as well as no passport
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Island Monkey for this useful post:
  #23  
Old 25.11.2020, 22:39
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Zurich
Posts: 7
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
samin has no particular reputation at present
Re: Home country withhold my passport :: 3rd world country matter

Quote:
View Post
You did register as self employed with the canton Zurich social security office?

No, not yet. I didn't know about this rule.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 25.11.2020, 23:00
NotAllThere's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Baselland
Posts: 12,700
Groaned at 202 Times in 179 Posts
Thanked 18,334 Times in 7,482 Posts
NotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Home country withhold my passport :: 3rd world country matter

Quote:
View Post
Another thing is, I have some conflict with local political leaders. I think they did this by using corrupted passport officers power.
This can happen. I know a Pakistani who became a Christian and fled to China with his wife. The embassy there wouldn't renew their password. (He ended up a German citizen in the end).

Quote:
View Post
Be careful what you ask for. Being a refugee is not easy in this country.
Refugee is fine. It's asylum seeker that's a pain. Refugees can work.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank NotAllThere for this useful post:
  #25  
Old 26.11.2020, 12:29
Axa's Avatar
Axa Axa is offline
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Suhr, Aargau
Posts: 1,712
Groaned at 21 Times in 21 Posts
Thanked 2,246 Times in 1,059 Posts
Axa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Home country withhold my passport :: 3rd world country matter

Quote:
View Post
No, not yet. I didn't know about this rule.
In that case, not having a passport to travel to FR/DE it the smallest of your problems. The residence permit allows you to study in CH, don't endanger it.

The rules about students working as employees are: max 15 hours per week during semesters, 100% during holidays. And you need to inform the university about this in written form. The spirit of the law is that if you work more than 15 hours, not enough attention is given to the university education, therefore the university resources are wasted (taxpayer money).

Also as Medea pointed, look the back of your permit. If it contains these words selbst erwerbstätigkeit ist bewilligungspflichtig they mean self-employment requires a permit. Meaning freelancing is illegal with a student permit. Of course, freelancing is not illegal per se, but you need a different permit.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Axa for this useful post:
  #26  
Old 26.11.2020, 13:10
Island Monkey's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wallis
Posts: 4,780
Groaned at 81 Times in 48 Posts
Thanked 4,844 Times in 2,275 Posts
Island Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Home country withhold my passport :: 3rd world country matter

Quote:
View Post
What is your home country?
Are we not going to get an answer to this? Hard to help more then!
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Island Monkey for this useful post:
  #27  
Old 26.11.2020, 14:04
moggy's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Thurgau (& London, UK)
Posts: 1,636
Groaned at 10 Times in 10 Posts
Thanked 902 Times in 591 Posts
moggy has a reputation beyond reputemoggy has a reputation beyond reputemoggy has a reputation beyond reputemoggy has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Home country withhold my passport :: 3rd world country matter

Quote:
View Post
Yes, my current passport is with me. Its expired and terminated.



Important, either take photocopies of the pages or photos, so you have a back up. Keep back up copies of anything until matter resolved.


I suggest you make appointment with passport office of the embassy/consulate of your country's representative in Switzerland.


Take that old passport and any documentation you have of the process you did to get the new passport, that you did not get.


They may require passport appropriate photos for new passport or they may have a digital system to do it or use another agency to do it their behalf. Some countries require cash payment, some cheques, on-line or plastic card payment. If you paid before bring the receipt. Be prepared to pay again.


Do not cross the border without a valid passport, unless your intention is to return to your home country.


As this thread has advised you, you should now be aware you were doing some things incorrect, working/student – correct that.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank moggy for this useful post:
  #28  
Old 27.11.2020, 00:28
Mullhollander's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Aargau
Posts: 2,549
Groaned at 10 Times in 9 Posts
Thanked 3,514 Times in 1,560 Posts
Mullhollander has a reputation beyond reputeMullhollander has a reputation beyond reputeMullhollander has a reputation beyond reputeMullhollander has a reputation beyond reputeMullhollander has a reputation beyond reputeMullhollander has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Home country withhold my passport :: 3rd world country matter

Quote:
View Post
Yes, I am sure. This year I renewed my permit without my valid passport. Simply I told them I submitted my passport renewal application but still I am waiting for my new passport.
My current B permit valid until September 2021.

Switzerland can issue a Passeport pour étrangers:"to foreigners without national travel documents but either in possession of an annual residence permit B or a permanent residence permit C."

https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/si...states_en.xlsx

This Swiss Federal government link provides additional information on obtaining a Swiss travel document for document-less foreigners with a B or C permit:

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/de/home...dokumente.html

Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Mullhollander for this useful post:
  #29  
Old 27.11.2020, 10:17
kri's Avatar
kri kri is offline
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 1,492
Groaned at 14 Times in 14 Posts
Thanked 1,166 Times in 615 Posts
kri has a reputation beyond reputekri has a reputation beyond reputekri has a reputation beyond reputekri has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Home country withhold my passport :: 3rd world country matter

How are you paying social security and income tax on the income you are making as a "freelancer"?

I wonder why it's often people who do things in grey areas who get in trouble and then scream wolf
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank kri for this useful post:
  #30  
Old 27.11.2020, 10:27
Island Monkey's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wallis
Posts: 4,780
Groaned at 81 Times in 48 Posts
Thanked 4,844 Times in 2,275 Posts
Island Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Home country withhold my passport :: 3rd world country matter

Quote:
View Post
How are you paying social security and income tax on the income you are making as a "freelancer"?

I wonder why it's often people who do things in grey areas who get in trouble and then scream wolf
I don’t believe this story.. the OP isn’t even willing to say what country he comes from!
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank Island Monkey for this useful post:
  #31  
Old 27.11.2020, 10:49
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 21,619
Groaned at 382 Times in 295 Posts
Thanked 16,556 Times in 9,353 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Home country withhold my passport :: 3rd world country matter

Quote:
View Post
How are you paying social security and income tax on the income you are making as a "freelancer"?

I wonder why it's often people who do things in grey areas who get in trouble and then scream wolf
My guess is they're not since they say they didn't know they needed to register here for such things.
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank Medea Fleecestealer for this useful post:
Reply

Tags
3rd world citizen, passport withhold




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Passport control into the country BLP Permits/visas/government 14 20.02.2019 21:54
the best country in the world is ... peebix Swiss politics/news 13 19.02.2016 01:20
Third world country first rate passport control Vegan_Chef International affairs/politics 6 09.12.2012 19:10
Switzerland, Second best country in the world. Yay or Nay? charisis Swiss politics/news 103 25.09.2010 06:46
Germany - the most liked country in the world ? jrspet International affairs/politics 3 14.02.2009 15:21


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 16:30.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0