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Non-EU prospective PHD, which permit allows me to bring my wife with me?

I am applying PhD at ETH and has reached out to the coordinator in the department about what permits I will be able to get.

He said I will get either B or L, depending on the authorities of the canton. This is from his original email:

At ETH, scientific staff and PhD students are given one-year contracts and this has led to some people receiving an L permit and others being given a B permit. This is determined by the authorities of the canton that you are residing in and we have no influence on it.

I am planning to bring my wife with me. Is the issue of the permits has an influence on my wife's coming to the country? Can she come with me, or I need to come first and apply for her visa?

tbh, it's a family's decision to move to another country, so if she cannot come to Switzerland during my time of study, I need to reconsider whether I should apply for the Ph.D. position.

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Old 08.01.2021, 12:27
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Re: Non-EU prospective PHD, which permit allows me to bring my wife with me?

Hello,

Not sure if conditions have changed, finished my PhD on 2017 albeit on Western CH.

Kanton Zürich allows family reunification for long B and L type permits. So, no legal problem. https://www.zh.ch/en/migration-integ...ennachzug.html

But, what's the source of funding? An scholarship from your country of origin or ETH employment contract? Next, what are the contract terms? 50%, 80% or 100% or weekly working hours? The amount of working hours determine your salary.

Don't want to know your salary but you need to know the main limitation for family reunification is income. You need to prove cantonal authorities the family reunification won't cause financial hardship. I forgot the specific term but there's a minimum income for a 2 person household: 3000-3500 CHF. If you earn above that you can theoretically afford housing, health insurance, food, clothing and transport for 2 while not relying on social assistance.
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Re: Non-EU prospective PHD, which permit allows me to bring my wife with me?

Take a look here (ETH official information for Doctoral Students), section "Other countries".

With ETH employment contract you will be able to bring your wife under a family reunification (both L and B permits allow that). Without an employment contract things get trickier, but still doable in most situations (too vast to explain each of them in one thread).

Usually, your wife will have to apply for an entrance visa after you will get your contract and your registration address in Switzerland. She will have to apply for a permit to stay once she arrives.

Assuming you are getting a standard ETH PHD candidate salary with 100% employment: monthly income of 3920 CHF before taxes is considered enough to support a family of two in any district (Gemeinde) of Zürich, so it shall not be a limiting factor.
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Usually, your wife will have to apply for an entrance visa after you will get your contract and your registration address in Switzerland. She will have to apply for a permit to stay once she arrives.
Sorry, but wrong. If he takes up the PhD offer he needs to get ETH to apply for permits for both of them at the same time; his for employment, hers for family reunification.

As as a non-EU national she would not be granted a Type D visa without having pre-approval for a family permit.
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Sorry, but wrong. If he takes up the PhD offer he needs to get ETH to apply for permits for both of them at the same time; his for employment, hers for family reunification.

As as a non-EU national she would not be granted a Type D visa without having pre-approval for a family permit.
No #1: my wife arrived 1.5 years later to CH after my PhD started. I took it as a trial period to see if things worked (why make her move if I'm going to quit?) and she had things to finish at home.

No #2: at least some years ago UNINE told me family reunification was my problem, not theirs. All they could do is provide two documents: (i) proof of income from HR, and (ii) a letter from the professor that tells I was still working there and expected to work some X period of time in the future.
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No #1: my wife arrived 1.5 years later to CH after my PhD started. I took it as a trial period to see if things worked (why make her move if I'm going to quit?) and she had things to finish at home.

No #2: at least some years ago UNINE told me family reunification was my problem, not theirs. All they could do is provide two documents: (i) proof of income from HR, and (ii) a letter from the professor that tells I was still working there and expected to work some X period of time in the future.
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Hello,

Not sure if conditions have changed, finished my PhD on 2017 albeit on Western CH.

Kanton Zürich allows family reunification for long B and L type permits. So, no legal problem. https://www.zh.ch/en/migration-integ...ennachzug.html

But, what's the source of funding? An scholarship from your country of origin or ETH employment contract? Next, what are the contract terms? 50%, 80% or 100% or weekly working hours? The amount of working hours determine your salary.

Don't want to know your salary but you need to know the main limitation for family reunification is income. You need to prove cantonal authorities the family reunification won't cause financial hardship. I forgot the specific term but there's a minimum income for a 2 person household: 3000-3500 CHF. If you earn above that you can theoretically afford housing, health insurance, food, clothing and transport for 2 while not relying on social assistance.
Thanks for your answer!

The scholarship is from ETH, and it's a 100% employment contract. Will be paid the basic PhD salary which is 47,040 per year, according to information from the coordinator.

Thanks for the information! The website you provided is very helpful and I am surprised I haven't look at it before!

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If he takes up the PhD offer he needs to get ETH to apply for permits for both of them at the same time; his for employment, hers for family reunification.
Thanks.

According to the official website EVOP provided:
If immediate members of your family accompany you, they have to be included in your visa application. You should submit the following documents:

Spouse: copy of marriage certificate and copy of spouse's passport

Please note: Accompanying family members must be listed on the immigration application form.


I need to include my wife's application when I am applying for the visa, but that should not be a problem.

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Re: Non-EU prospective PHD, which permit allows me to bring my wife with me?

Update:

I applied for that position but got a rejection. However, the professor promised to talk about the possibilities for 2022 at the end of this year (When a professor said your material is impressive and we can discuss later, is he or she really interested in you, or just a polite response?)

Now I am considering reaching out to the same professor later this year.
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