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Standard German vs. Swiss German for C-permit in Zurich

Hi All,

I am starting to learn German hoping towards a C-permit application in near future.

Does it make a difference if I learn standard german or Swiss german?

The Telc exams for A1 etc., do they differentiate in Swiss german vs. standard german?

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Re: Standard German vs. Swiss German for C-permit in Zurich

There is a very huge difference regarding exam: They are not offered in Swiss German.
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The test required is for High German.
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The test required is for High German.
High German is the same as Standard German. (Just to avoid confusion, as we now have a third term)
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Re: Standard German vs. Swiss German for C-permit in Zurich

I've heard it called schriftdeutsch too.

Advice to anyone, learn German. You will get certificates for that. Not Swiss German.

The bar in Zürich is monumentally low isn't it? A1 spoken and written? Or B1 spoken, A1 written?
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I've heard it called schriftdeutsch too.

Advice to anyone, learn German. You will get certificates for that. Not Swiss German.

The bar in Zürich is monumentally low isn't it? A1 spoken and written? Or B1 spoken, A1 written?
Depends on Early C which is B1 spoken, A1 written, and the other 10 year one which I haven't paid any attention to.
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Re: Standard German vs. Swiss German for C-permit in Zurich

Thanks everyone!

High german it is then. Or standard German. Or German. Or whatever!

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Re: Standard German vs. Swiss German for C-permit in Zurich

Investigate the KDE test if you live in Canton Zurich. It's more attuned to real life than TELC & Goethe et al. Downside is it's only of use in Canton Zurich but if the goal is just a C permit then it's good enough and less academic.

https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/aoz/de/...verfahren.html
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Depends on Early C which is B1 spoken, A1 written, and the other 10 year one which I haven't paid any attention to.
Early C based on good integration: B1, spoken as well as written ! The canton ZH goes beyond the minimum B1/A1 which is required by the federal law. https://www.zh.ch/content/dam/zhweb/...ewilligung.pdf

Regular C after 10 (for some nationalities 5 years): A2 spoken, A1 written which is the minimum defined in the federal law. (For some nationalities, based on bilateral treaties, there is no language requirement).

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Investigate the KDE test if you live in Canton Zurich. It's more attuned to real life than TELC & Goethe et al. Downside is it's only of use in Canton Zurich but if the goal is just a C permit then it's good enough and less academic.

https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/aoz/de/...verfahren.html
KDE is accept Swiss wide. https://fide-info.ch/doc/107/fideDE_...ertifikate.pdf
However, as the KDE only measure up to A2 for the written level it is NOT accept for early C based on good integration in canton Zurich, as one needs B1 written and spoken in that canton!
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Re: Standard German vs. Swiss German for C-permit in Zurich

Ah crap, well time to stop chatting and get back to my spellings then.
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