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Bring non-EU parents to Switzerland

All, according to EU migration law EU citizen live in another EU/EEA country i.e. Switzerland can bring their parents to Switzerland. One of the condition is to prove you parents need your support. Did anyone go through this process? What kind of document requires? I know it is differ per Canton. But any experience will help me out here. Thanks a lot.
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Re: Bring non-EU parents to Switzerland

Welcome to the forum.

I would assume bank statements showing that you provide financial support to your parents in the country they're living in atm. Salary statements showing you earn enough to support all your dependents.
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Welcome to the forum.

I would assume bank statements showing that you provide financial support to your parents in the country they're living in atm. Salary statements showing you earn enough to support all your dependents.
Thank you!

In other EU country, you have to prove your parents have no house and low pension in the original country. Each country asks for different type of document to prove that. So I wonder if anyone has been through the process in Switzerland can share some experience.
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Re: Bring non-EU parents to Switzerland

Switzerland is not an EU country.

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Re: Bring non-EU parents to Switzerland

Welcome to the forum.

You can search for other similar threads, you will find some useful information.

https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...nd-non-eu.html

https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...d-live-us.html

This site might also help: https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification-eu-efta/
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Welcome to the forum.

You can search for other similar threads, you will find some useful information.

https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...nd-non-eu.html

https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...d-live-us.html

This site might also help: https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification-eu-efta/
Thanks for the tip. Exactly the policy is:

EU/EFTA citizens holding a Swiss residence permit may bring the following family members to Switzerland under the family reunification programme, regardless of their nationality:

Parents and grandparents, if they can be supported financially (if they need financial support, proof of support must be provided before entering Switzerland)

I am just confused about the how you can approve they need supported financially? Is that sufficient for just transfer money regularly? Wonder who has done that can share some experience.
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Thanks for the tip. Exactly the policy is:

EU/EFTA citizens holding a Swiss residence permit may bring the following family members to Switzerland under the family reunification programme, regardless of their nationality:

Parents and grandparents, if they can be supported financially (if they need financial support, proof of support must be provided before entering Switzerland)

I am just confused about the how you can approve they need supported financially? Is that sufficient for just transfer money regularly? Wonder who has done that can share some experience.
They must either be independently wealthy, and able to cover all their costs including health insurance, housing and food. If not you must be able to cover these costs.
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Re: Bring non-EU parents to Switzerland

It looks like you have to prove:

1. you send money to your parents to 'cover their living costs in other countries' (bank statements) --> you guys are poor
2. your parents + you have more than enough to cover all living costs in Switzerland --> you guys are rich

so according to this you have to be poor and rich at the same time
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Thank you!

In other EU country, you have to prove your parents have no house and low pension in the original country. Each country asks for different type of document to prove that. So I wonder if anyone has been through the process in Switzerland can share some experience.
Not quite sure about this logic though... if you have no house and low pension, how is it possible that your parents can afford the living costs in Switzerland?
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Old 05.02.2021, 15:18
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Not quite sure about this logic though... if you have no house and low pension, how is it possible that your parents can afford the living costs in Switzerland?
Indeed, unless the parents have at least 1 million, preferably 2 million, I think there is very little chance unless someone is a mega earner.
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Re: Bring non-EU parents to Switzerland

Have you entered the information on the bottom of the page? You must enter the city you live in under "Detailed list of requirements established by the State Secretariat for Migration for family reunification "and then you will be able to download a pdf with lots of information (in the three national languages):

Pour les personnes à charge (les descendants et les ascendants p.ex. parents, grands-parents, enfants) une attestation émise par l’autorité compétente de l’Etat d’origine ou de provenance prouvant qu’ils sont à la charge du ressortissant de l’UE/AELE ou qu’ils vivent sous le même toit dans cet Etat.

You didn't mention where your parents live, but if I understand correctly, you will need an official paper from their country of residence stating that you are currently providing for them (or that you live with them - which is not currently the case).
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I am just confused about the how you can approve they need supported financially? Is that sufficient for just transfer money regularly? Wonder who has done that can share some experience.
Our situation was different, in that we (OH and I, FIL) are all non-EU. With no right to bring parents, AFAIK as one asks for an exception, each application is decided on it's own, at local officials' discretion..

But nonetheless, the things we submitted might give you a few insights into your situation.

First, dependence on the Swiss resident child might not necessarily be limited to financial dependence. For instance, it could be physical dependance - as in, need for personal care, parents unable to live on their own, without other relatives in their home country. Again, as non-EU we were in a different category but you might want to double check with your local Gemeinde folks as to that bit.

My impression was that, regardless of the reason one felt it necessary to bring the parents here, in the eyes of Officialdom it was largely about finances. The overriding concern was to ensure that elderly dependents - who, remember, have not contributed to Switzerland and unless quite wealthy are unlikely to do so going forward - would not end up costing the Swiss taxpayer a single Rappen.

Toward that end, we drew up a budget for FiL, showing what his expenses were over the last 5 years and what that would translate to in Switzerland. We also showed likely expenses that he might need in the future - for instance, nursing home costs.

With the budget drawn up, we simply submitted proof of finances sufficient to cover those expenses. Here it could be your assets, your parents', or a combination of the two. It's fairly easy to document if you have been here a while, as you already have your wealth tax submissions. Just add in anything your parents are bringing.

Again, it must be stressed that you are in a more favorable position that we were, so you might find you are met with different attitudes, expectations, procedures than we were.

(I don't know if our approach would have been successful, as FIL died before a decision was made and so we withdrew the application.)

Wishing you and your parents all the best.
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Indeed, unless the parents have at least 1 million, preferably 2 million, I think there is very little chance unless someone is a mega earner.
My question is does properties/stocks/(or Bitcoins you name it ) count into that 2 Mio? ...

I'm just wondering who would keep 2 Mio cash in their bank account (with negative interest)... (except gazillionaires)
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My question is does properties/stocks/(or Bitcoins you name it ) count into that 2 Mio? ...

I'm just wondering who would keep 2 Mio cash in their bank account (with negative interest)... (except gazillionaires)
Assets.

It's the whole picture.

But assets needed to cover current expenses should be liquid, obviously.


(Again, I need to stress that as a non-EU, the application was really an exception - I do not know what is expected of an EU/CH sponsor. Also, bear in mind that these decisions might be local - what I needed in SZ might be different in another canton/Gemeinde.)
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My question is does properties/stocks/(or Bitcoins you name it ) count into that 2 Mio? ...

I'm just wondering who would keep 2 Mio cash in their bank account (with negative interest)... (except gazillionaires)
Sure liquid assets are accepted.
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Assets.

It's the whole picture.

But assets needed to cover current expenses should be liquid, obviously.
Thanks~ That's logical~

the only thing is that 2 Mio properties can generate, say 60K passive income per year...

Selling properties and putting money in a bank is just not economically favorable, not to mention all the transaction cost, taxes... also the property price is going up as well... so don't really want to sell them
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Thanks~ That's logical~

the only thing is that 2 Mio properties can generate, say 60K passive income per year...

Selling properties and putting money in a bank is just not economically favorable, not to mention all the transaction cost, taxes... also the property price is going up as well... so don't really want to sell them
60k is probably borderline income, however with pensions on top......
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Re: Bring non-EU parents to Switzerland

Why would you sell an income producing property?

Rather, show you own a property valued at X, producing an income of Y - and use Y against your parents' expected expenses.

The only reason to sell is if you could not cover you parents' current expenses without doing so.

(IIRC, you will be a Swiss citizen by the time you seek to bring your folks here, oder? Remember, there isn't really a specific amount required - rather, you have to show that you can cover expected expenses. )
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60k is probably borderline income, however with pensions on top......
Then it's above 80K (2 person), just above the minimum line
(I heard that minimum is 39K per person per year)
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Why would you sell an income producing property?

Rather, show you own a property valued at X, producing an income of Y - and use Y against your parents' expected expenses.

The only reason to sell is if you could not cover you parents' current expenses without doing so.

(IIRC, you will be a Swiss citizen by the time you seek to bring your folks here, oder? Remember, there isn't really a specific amount required - rather, you have to show that you can cover expected expenses. )
Aha that sounds good looks like in best case you just need to produce some budget analysis (plus proof) which produce approximately 80K income per year additionally~
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