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PhD spouse visa

Hello, I am from Non-EU country and I just received an offer for PhD in Lausanne and should be with a salary rate CHF 52'400. - gross per annum. As my fiancée also Non EU, is it possible that she come to Switzerland with me? I have the following questions:

1. Is she possible to obtain a dependent visa with working permission? What extra step I need to do during the visa application?
2. As she is also thinking about whether is it possible to work for one more year to save money before she comes here. Is it possible to apply for a dependent visa after one year I came to Switzerland?
3. As my salary is not high, is it possible to support the basic living costs in Lausanne for the two of us?

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Old 18.02.2021, 15:21
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Re: PhD spouse visa

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As my fiancée also Non EU, is it possible that she come to Switzerland with me?
Yes, but if you marry before applying for the permit, it is easier. Easier in the sense of less paperwork.

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1. Is she possible to obtain a dependent visa with working permission? What extra step I need to do during the visa application?
I was in the same situation some years ago. I got a B type permit (education with income) and my wife also got a B type permit (employee work allowed). Did not ask anything special, seems to be standard.

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2. As she is also thinking about whether is it possible to work for one more year to save money before she comes here. Is it possible to apply for a dependent visa after one year I came to Switzerland?
Canton Vaud says you have 5 years to ask for family regroup.
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Le regroupement familial doit être demandé dans un délai de 5 ans.
https://www.vd.ch/themes/population/...ourte-duree-l/

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3. As my salary is not high, is it possible to support the basic living costs in Lausanne for the two of us?
Theoretically yes, but it depends on who you like to live. Your annual income will become 3100-3400 CHF per month after taxes and social deductions. A 1 bedroom + living room should be around 1400-1500 CHF (maybe less, but with a lot of effort and luck). The cheapest health insurance is around 300 CHF per person per month. We cook a lot of fresh food, anyway our food expense is 400-700 per month in the supermarket/farm. Eating out make food expenses explode. Transportation, 70-80 CHF per month for a ticket that includes a few zones around the place you live. So, apartment rent, health insurance food and transportation can already consume 2500-2900 of the net month income.

So, it's possible. But we didn't leave the apartment too much until my wife's first income. Any outing meant making the savings smaller.

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Re: PhD spouse visa

Are we sure that visas are granted for fiancés as well? I thought you needed to be married in order to ask for family reunification ...
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Hello, welcome to the forum.



Yes, but if you marry before applying for the permit, it is easier. Easier in the sense of less paperwork.



I was in the same situation some years ago. I got a B type permit (education with income) and my wife also got a B type permit (employee work allowed). Did not ask anything special, seems to be standard.



Canton Vaud says you have 5 years to ask for family regroup.

https://www.vd.ch/themes/population/...ourte-duree-l/



Theoretically yes, but it depends on who you like to live. Your annual income will become 3100-3400 CHF per month after taxes and social deductions. A 1 bedroom + living room should be around 1400-1500 CHF (maybe less, but with a lot of effort and luck). The cheapest health insurance is around 300 CHF per person per month. We cook a lot of fresh food, anyway our food expense is 400-700 per month in the supermarket/farm. Eating out make food expenses explode. Transportation, 70-80 CHF per month for a ticket that includes a few zones around the place you live. So, apartment rent, health insurance food and transportation can already consume 2500-2900 of the net month income.

So, it's possible. But we didn't leave the apartment too much until my wife's first income. Any outing meant making the savings smaller.
Thank you so much for your detailed reply! It was very helpful!!! May I know if your wife applied the visa same time as you?

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Are we sure that visas are granted for fiancés as well? I thought you needed to be married in order to ask for family reunification ...
Hi, thank you for your reply. We plan to get marry this summer before the PhD start. Will it affect the visa application?

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Hello, welcome to the forum.



Yes, but if you marry before applying for the permit, it is easier. Easier in the sense of less paperwork.



I was in the same situation some years ago. I got a B type permit (education with income) and my wife also got a B type permit (employee work allowed). Did not ask anything special, seems to be standard.



Canton Vaud says you have 5 years to ask for family regroup.

https://www.vd.ch/themes/population/...ourte-duree-l/



Theoretically yes, but it depends on who you like to live. Your annual income will become 3100-3400 CHF per month after taxes and social deductions. A 1 bedroom + living room should be around 1400-1500 CHF (maybe less, but with a lot of effort and luck). The cheapest health insurance is around 300 CHF per person per month. We cook a lot of fresh food, anyway our food expense is 400-700 per month in the supermarket/farm. Eating out make food expenses explode. Transportation, 70-80 CHF per month for a ticket that includes a few zones around the place you live. So, apartment rent, health insurance food and transportation can already consume 2500-2900 of the net month income.

So, it's possible. But we didn't leave the apartment too much until my wife's first income. Any outing meant making the savings smaller.
Moreover do I need to tell the University that my wife will come to Switzerland too? Thank you very much for your time.

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Moreover do I need to tell the University that my wife will come to Switzerland too? Thank you very much for your time.
My wife arrived a year a some months later. Yes, you have to tell the university for several reasons: (i) income tax is withheld by the university and the tax rate depends on civil status, (ii) when you apply for family reunion you need a letter from the university telling you will work there for X time, (iii) nice to tell the colleagues
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My wife arrived a year a some months later. Yes, you have to tell the university for several reasons: (i) income tax is withheld by the university and the tax rate depends on civil status, (ii) when you apply for family reunion you need a letter from the university telling you will work there for X time, (iii) nice to tell the colleagues
Thank you so much! So is it possible to apply the spouse visa at the same time when I apply for my visa? I have read some forums and it said it is not possible to bring your spouse for the first year of PhD study because you are not an assistant and technically not a working permit. We hope to go to Switzerland together as soon as possible.
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Thank you so much! So is it possible to apply the spouse visa at the same time when I apply for my visa? I have read some forums and it said it is not possible to bring your spouse for the first year of PhD study because you are not an assistant and technically not a working permit. We hope to go to Switzerland together as soon as possible.
From my personal experience: yes, your wife can apply for an entrance visa as soon as you will get your permit (not your entrance visa, but a permit).

Also, it may depend on a country you are coming from. Although, legally there may be no difference, but consulate services differ from country to country, which affects many bureaucratic aspects. For example, a pair of my friends from Iran had much more delays and extra requirements for reunification, than pairs from USA, Russia and Hong Kong. It is by no mean a meaningful or representative statistics, just saying.


About the marriage: the immigration system encourages you to get married before the move, it makes many things easier
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Thank you so much! So is it possible to apply the spouse visa at the same time when I apply for my visa? I have read some forums and it said it is not possible to bring your spouse for the first year of PhD study because you are not an assistant and technically not a working permit. We hope to go to Switzerland together as soon as possible.
No idea about that first year. Also, my experience is from 2013/2014. Things may have changed.

I guess the best you could do is ask the professor hiring you about other student that went through this process recently. You're not the only one in this situation. I can bet a 24 pack of beer that someone in the same department did the very same paperwork last year and is happy to help. So, ask your futures colleagues and get better info. Good luck
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Thank you for all the advice! Hope everything will be ok!
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No idea about that first year. Also, my experience is from 2013/2014. Things may have changed.

I guess the best you could do is ask the professor hiring you about other student that went through this process recently. You're not the only one in this situation. I can bet a 24 pack of beer that someone in the same department did the very same paperwork last year and is happy to help. So, ask your futures colleagues and get better info. Good luck
Hi, I have contacted the university and they said it is possible apply the permit for her if we get married before June otherwise I have to do the application by myself. However as I am currently in UK and she is in Hong Kong, I cannot go back Hong Kong immedialy to get married due to Hong Kong Boarder restriction. So is the family reunification application very complicated if I apply it by myself? I have read some web but I cannot find a exact procedure/requirement for the application... Thank you very much for your help.
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