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Old 23.03.2021, 16:09
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Re: Spouse: EU/Schengen citizen working in other country - overstaying tourist?

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Have you checked what the Swiss embassy in Copenhagen says?
Yepp, same/similar message. No visa required to stay more than 90 days in 180 day period, but you need to register with the Cantonal authorities to get permission to stay.
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Old 23.03.2021, 16:56
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I have kind of come to realize that this is simply not possible given how the system is set up. Maybe we'll just have to accept that.
This. You both have to accept that she can only be here as a tourist for a maximum of 90 days in 180 days - or become a resident here. There are no alternatives. And to keep any permit then her centre of life should be in Switzerland where she should spend most of her time. If she can't/won't do that then you're both just going to have to live with the situation as it is, like it or not.

The other question is has she ever considered looking for a job here? That way she could move here permanently.
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Old 25.03.2021, 08:29
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The other question is has she ever considered looking for a job here? That way she could move here permanently.
Thank you for this kind advice. She could move her permanently also without a job, but that is not what we want. I have a two year contract, working for the Swiss federal government, and will probably only stay for the duration and then move on. This set-up allows us both to maintain our careers, a concept which was completely out-of-the-world for the lady at the cantonal immigration office.
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Old 25.03.2021, 08:57
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Thank you for this kind advice. She could move her permanently also without a job, but that is not what we want. I have a two year contract, working for the Swiss federal government, and will probably only stay for the duration and then move on. This set-up allows us both to maintain our careers, a concept which was completely out-of-the-world for the lady at the cantonal immigration office.
Well, not really. Yes, as the main permit holder you would have to show that you could financially support you spouse to get the family reunification permit, but there's nothing to stop her getting a job here just the same. She certainly didn't mean that she couldn't work here.

Anyway I think it's pretty clear to you now that there's no way to do what you would like to do. She will simply have to visit you when she can and not overstay her 90 days here. It's the downside of you moving here and her not joining you permanently so you're both going to have to live with the consequences of that decision and make the best of it.
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Old 25.03.2021, 09:06
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Thank you for this kind advice. She could move her permanently also without a job, but that is not what we want. I have a two year contract, working for the Swiss federal government, and will probably only stay for the duration and then move on. This set-up allows us both to maintain our careers, a concept which was completely out-of-the-world for the lady at the cantonal immigration office.
Taxes.

What you want is offered only as residence permit without gainful activity, living out of your past earned money.

For good or bad, Swiss residents are more or less taxed based on worldwide income. So, country of tax residency matters.

Read about a permit without gainful activity in CH but with income in other country. I have no idea if it even exists but it might. Maybe it's one of those permits you buy with a lot of money.
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Re: Spouse: EU/Schengen citizen working in other country - overstaying tourist?

A friend of mine had some issues similar to this and decided to sometimes drive or take the train as that's less traceable than flying. Won't help if you get caught but might reduce the chances of getting caught.
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Taxes.

What you want is offered only as residence permit without gainful activity, living out of your past earned money.

For good or bad, Swiss residents are more or less taxed based on worldwide income. So, country of tax residency matters.

Read about a permit without gainful activity in CH but with income in other country. I have no idea if it even exists but it might. Maybe it's one of those permits you buy with a lot of money.
You can do a Tax deal in some cantons, however min tax to pay will be 150,000 plus.
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Old 25.03.2021, 13:49
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You can do a Tax deal in some cantons, however min tax to pay will be 150,000 plus.
Allow me to correct: a whole lot of money if the tax bill is above 150K
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A friend of mine had some issues similar to this and decided to sometimes drive or take the train as that's less traceable than flying. Won't help if you get caught but might reduce the chances of getting caught.
Iím sure last time I flew into ZRH from another Schengen country/airport (AMS) I didnít even have to go through passport control, just straight into baggage collection.
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Iím sure last time I flew into ZRH from another Schengen country/airport (AMS) I didnít even have to go through passport control, just straight into baggage collection.
I have not been through passport control in Schengen with over 150 such flights. It does not exist unless there is a specific threat for a few days which did happen a couple of years ago.
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I have not been through passport control in Schengen with over 150 such flights. It does not exist unless there is a specific threat for a few days which did happen a couple of years ago.
Aside from a potential airline passenger manifest my friend has had to show his passport upon entering probably for more than 2 years now.
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Aside from a potential airline passenger manifest my friend has had to show his passport upon entering probably for more than 2 years now.
Amazed, I took 7 flights in 5 days & never showed my passport, a company had to change the names on the tickets as I replaced someone, however I could have used the flights without. Leaving & arriving in both GVA & ZH the flights were to or from Germany or ZH to GVA.

I have landed at ZH twice & transited recently & never showed a passport on arrival, on boarding from ZH depending on Airline, not with Swiss. Landing in CH does not mean you are staying in CH, I use CH & transit, leaveing within 24 hours
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