Dear all,
My understand is that to get C permit for Non EU, one has to stay in Switzerland for total of 10 years and out of which last 5 years should be uninterrupted in B-permit.
Am I correct?


Because there are different website and different places things either confuses or not very clear.

However in the Geneva official website they mentioned

"Le permis C peut, sur demande, être attribué après un séjour en Suisse de 10 ans minimum au bénéfice d'une autorisation de courte durée (permis L) ou de séjour (permis B), dont les cinq dernières années de manière ininterrompue au titre d'une autorisation de séjour"

With my basic french and help from google I think I am right.
Can anyone please confirm.
Because I stayed earlier for couple of years here and then left for couple of years and then came back and living here past 8 years, so will my previous years be counted?

Yes, that's correct I think.

You could always apply for an early C if you meet the criteria under VINTA.

https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...ugh-vinta.html

NO, I am not talking about the early C Permit after 5 years;
I want to understand the normal C permit after 10 years; what I understood that it is total 10 years and out of which last 5 years should be uninterrupted instead of general understanding that 10 years uninterrupted.

See MF´s post again?

I went through the post, it talks about staying in Switzerland for 5 years and applying for C permit (with language skill B1 oral plus A2 writing)

I am talking asking about staying in Switzerland for total of 10 years, last 8 years uninterrupted but having language skill of A1 written and A2 oral;
This is what the normal C permit requires, only confusion is whether 10 years is uninterrupted or TOTAL OF 10 and last 5 uninterrupted.

Medea said that it is correct, possible, for you to get a normal C with your particular circumstances. Then she was helpful and said you might also think of applying under VINTA criteria.
I agree with Medea on both points.

Thank you and sorry for my over looking

Point to note : "one has to stay in Switzerland for total of 10 years"

L permit years do not count in these 10 years.

No I think it is counted only thing is last 5 years has to be on B-permit, this is what they say in their website

"Le permis C peut, sur demande, être attribué après un séjour en Suisse de 10 ans minimum au bénéfice d'une autorisation de courte durée (permis L) ou de séjour (permis B), dont les cinq dernières années de manière ininterrompue au titre d'une autorisation de séjour"

https://www.ge.ch/demander-permis-c

From my own experience (Zurich canton - received C back in 2016 )- I can confirm that the L permit years are not counted to calculate total no. of years spent inside Switzerland.

But you seem to be sure as well.

All the best for your C permit application.

Another note : if you are applying for early C (under VINTA) - please mention this in the "comment" section of your application.

Any other questions : please feel free to let us know.

Well I am not sure but read at many places hence trying to interpret with anyone having such experience. So I am not countering your own experience but it seems that the laws have been changed since January 2019.

I finally found the federal law here :
https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/2007/758/en#art_34

Quoting:
2 Foreign nationals may be granted a permanent residence permit if:
a.
they have resided in Switzerland for a minimum of ten years in total on the basis with a short stay or residence permit and have held a residence permit without interruption for the last five years;

Here the definition of short stay and residence permit is defined just above this article which I interpret short stay as L and residence permit as B.

Also one more website which I found clarifies the same.
https://www.legalexpat.ch/swiss-permit/permit-c/

So it seems, I am correct however time will reveal the truth.