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JulietteK 12.04.2021 09:16

Re: What documents will I need to supply to be added to the Zivilstandsregister?
 
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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3295344)
The US wouldn't be.

Tom

See above from a quote of the US Department of State's website.

cdcdoc 12.04.2021 10:26

Re: What documents will I need to supply to be added to the Zivilstandsregister?
 
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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3295344)
The US wouldn't be.

Tom

I think she is getting things mixed up...it talks about the ability to marry so maybe age or other legal aspects...the discussion is pointless :) I have never heard that one needs to prove if married or not...not married means not married. :msntongue:

JulietteK 12.04.2021 10:43

Re: What documents will I need to supply to be added to the Zivilstandsregister?
 
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Originally Posted by cdcdoc (Post 3295369)
I think she is getting things mixed up...it talks about the ability to marry so maybe age or other legal aspects...the discussion is pointless :) I have never heard that one needs to prove if married or not...not married means not married. :msntongue:

No it clearly says

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legal capacity to enter into a marriage contract
which is among other things being unmarried or divorced.

In the case of the US, where a civil status registry does not exist, they put the responsibility on the person wishing to marry by making the person sign an affidavit attesting to their civil status. I let you research what legal implications signing an affidavit involves.

JulietteK 12.04.2021 13:38

Re: What documents will I need to supply to be added to the Zivilstandsregister?
 
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Originally Posted by doropfiz (Post 3295440)
I don't seen how a country would know that one of it's citizens were going to get or had got married, abroad. If I apply for a newly issued copy of my original birth certificate, from my home country, that does not necessarily imply that I will use it to change my civil status.

A birth certificate certifies precisely that, a birth and does not attest to one's civil status.

To marry one needs to provide proof they are not already married (via a civil status document in some countries or a sworn affidavit in others). In requesting such document one will be asked why they need it. By replying 'preparation for marriage' the authority in question will request that the person update their civil status in their own registry (if it exists for that country).

All this to avoid legal marriages with multiple people in different countries.

st2lemans 12.04.2021 14:24

Re: What documents will I need to supply to be added to the Zivilstandsregister?
 
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Originally Posted by JulietteK (Post 3295347)
See above from a quote of the US Department of State's website.

I never informed the US when I got married, nor did I when I became widowed, thus they never had a clue either way.

And who gives a rat's ass about he US Department of State? :msnsick:

Tom

st2lemans 12.04.2021 14:30

Re: What documents will I need to supply to be added to the Zivilstandsregister?
 
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Originally Posted by JulietteK (Post 3295376)
No it clearly says

which is among other things being unmarried or divorced.

In the case of the US, where a civil status registry does not exist, they put the responsibility on the person wishing to marry by making the person sign an affidavit attesting to their civil status. I let you research what legal implications signing an affidavit involves.

I got married in the US, and never signed any such thing.

Tom

st2lemans 12.04.2021 14:31

Re: What documents will I need to supply to be added to the Zivilstandsregister?
 
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Originally Posted by JulietteK (Post 3295342)
Fine, but they would have been informed of the marriage via:



https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...ge-abroad.html

That is for marriages abroad. :rolleyes:

Tom

JulietteK 12.04.2021 15:05

Re: What documents will I need to supply to be added to the Zivilstandsregister?
 
OK letís derail the thread a bit more, anyone else?

JulietteK 12.04.2021 15:07

Re: What documents will I need to supply to be added to the Zivilstandsregister?
 
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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3295476)
That is for marriages abroad. :rolleyes:

Tom

Thatís exactly what we are talking about here...:rolleyes:

Urs Max 16.04.2021 11:19

Re: What documents will I need to supply to be added to the Zivilstandsregister?
 
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Originally Posted by doropfiz (Post 3295440)
I've never heard of any government (let's say, Switzerland) informing any other government (let's say the USA or the UK) that one of their (USA or UK) citizens had now married locally (in Switzerland).

In what world does an individual's lack of knowledge equal proof of inexistence?

Austria <-> Switzerland
see here


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