And retire whenever they want, which is especially important in CH.

JackieH lives in the Jura, loads of watch makers pay close to 30 CHF an hour for workers on a G permit who live in France, still above Migros pay at around 25 CHF. Handworkers in Jura are not earning 16K a month

It's pretty clear from the cars in the car park at those watch factories. The Swiss management drive exotic cars such as Maserati's & love to impress taking people out to lunch. The normal staff drive cars that would not pass a Swiss MFK.

That's generally possible if you have money to support yourself, Switzerland being no exception & particularly attractive to those who chose to take a tax forfeit

I meant it the other way, being able to work longer in life. It probably sounds nuts but it is an advantage here, where people are often made to retire or find it hard to bounce back into their career after a break.

I wonder if, when on my death bed I would wish I had worked past 52, I can't see it on the eve of my 59th birthday

How rich do you have to be to retire here as a 3rd country person? Anyone know?

Sorry Ace, trolls will troll.

So, last post. I do not live in Jura but in Neuchâtel. Unia the main local unions, keep a very keen and beady eye on salaries, including qualified watchmakers. But yes, great cars in the car-parks are either the bosses or the French frontaliers- who are raking it in as Unia insist they earn the same as the Swiss for the same experience and qualifications- but live in much cheaper France (and I certainly don't blame them). Out.

HickvonF- just depends where you live, and what your expectations are, surely. Living here, it is very possible with S1 healthcare exception and shopping in France, etc.

A forfeit tax will now be a min of 150k a year, normal tax payers significantly less.

Thanks Jackie - I meant more in terms of what the Swiss will demand to let you in. This is in relation to relatives of mine (Not Brits!)

3rd country nationals won't have an S1, they will have to pay for health insurance like most Swiss residents.

Brits are 3rd country residents.

Brits who retire tomorrow won't have an S1.

Yes another of those amazing and wonderful benefits of Brexit- hurrah, well done, bravo!

''If you started living in Switzerland before 1 January 2021, you may be entitled to state healthcare paid for by the UK if you’re a Swiss resident and receive

a UK State Pension''


Wonderful.

then retire today !

see above, it is too late to benefit now!


And here is another group who will be seriously affected

''Instructors, chalet cooks, drivers and nannies among 25,000 who may no longer be eligible to take up posts in EU countries''

I wonder how this will affect British companies and property owners all over the Alps. Another huge + for Brexit- be they 'talented' or not. (And I do believe British trained ski instructors are much better than the French). Hey, leave you to it.

I did 7 years ago & left CH, however I will have to take Swiss Medical insurance when I take my Swiss pension in 3 - 5 years, admittedly cheaper and a lower excess than the BUPA I currently have. Got to love Swiss rules
I know plenty of British ski instructors that can still legally work in France, then they are fully qualified professionals rather than hobby entry level instructors who can still work in Scotland if they want to work in the mountains.

That rule is mad. I guess it can be harmful or beneficial depending on where you live. If you were back in the uk it wouldn't be much appreciated. Why link medical insurance and pension?

Having worked here makes it possible to retire early (albeit a bit later than FMF &#128512

Thats how JackieH gets free Medical cover! If I lived in the UK & took a Swiss pension aged 65 I would have to pay Swiss health insurance for access to UK's NHS.

Yet JackieH says how poor the UK pension is & does not count her approximate 500 CHF a month benefit of health insurance with a 300chf annual excess! 20 years Swiss pension will pay about twice the required medical cost of living in the UK as a British citizen with a CH pension or has the medical insurance requirement been dropped due to BREXIT. If so it's a definite benefit of BREXIT!
Compound equity growth rates of 18% are responsible for early retirement, think Fundsmith.......

Already on it and will remember that when I get that pillar II !
Still, having worked here for 12 years now has helped a lot towards that early retirement. Compared to the peanuts I will get from other countries.