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Registered Partnership

Hello everybody,

after 6 years of being in a relationship, my partner and I entered a Civil Partnership in Croatia. He is Croatian I am both Croatian and Italian.

I own a B permit.

He applied for the B permit via the Family Reunification programme since, although being an EU/EFTA citizen, he is Croatian and specific regulations apply for Croatian citizens wanting to settle in Switzerland. In case of the Family Reunification programme though, those regulations don't apply, as we have been confirmed in written by the Immigration Office in Zurich.

Today, a letter arrived from the Immigration Office saying, to our surprise, that civil partnerships from Croatia are not recognized in Switzerland and he is being asked whether it is our intention to register our civil status at the local civil registration office. The question in the letter says "Are you planning to register in a civil registration office in Switzerland?"

The letter than continues - if our plan isn't to do the registration, he should provide the following:

- a document proving he has enough financial means to live in Switzerland
- a document proving that we have been living together before my entry to Switzerland in December 2020
- a Declaration of Sponsorship signed by me and accompanied by my last three payslips and the Betreibungsregisterauszug
- the rental agreement

Now, I would have three questions:

1. Does anybody have experience with registering their marriage/partnership at the local civil registry office? If so, how does the process look like?

2. Regarding the documents we would need to provide, does anybody have any best practices, i.e. how much does he need to have on his bank account etc.? We have all the above documents in our possession and my average monthly net salary is +8K and have been working here since January 2021.

3. If I understand correctly, we can simply reply by saying that we are planning to register our civil status in our local civil registration office and we wouldn't then need to send any of the above documents (which, again, wouldn't be a problem at all), and we are good to go? Would we then need a document proving we have started the registration process?
To my understanding, the registration in this case would mean submitting the necessary documentation to the Civil Registration Office so that our partnership can be recognised in Switzerland, and not that we do another ceremony and re-enter the partnership. Any thoughts?

I would lie if I said that I am not a bit worried, although I should not be as much since we truly do have every single document they would need from us.

Finally, I would truly appreciate, if there is someone out there who found themselves in a similar situation, that they share some best practices in how to approach this.

Apologies for the long post and thank you!
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Old 05.05.2021, 18:33
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See this for more info on registered partnerships.

https://www.ch.ch/en/registered-partnership/
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Re: Registered Partnership

Hello,

thank you for the link.

I just opened a document saying that every partnership concluded abroad needs to be verified, and that is by the Swiss diplomatic mission in the country the partnership has been concluded in. The embassy/consulate sends it then to the canton that one of the partners is living in and then the canton takes the final decision.
Hopefully, we can do it while in Switzerland somehow.

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Hello,

thank you for the link.

I just opened a document saying that every partnership concluded abroad needs to be verified, and that is by the Swiss diplomatic mission in the country the partnership has been concluded in. The embassy/consulate sends it then to the canton that one of the partners is living in and then the canton takes the final decision.
Hopefully, we can do it while in Switzerland somehow.
Well, from what I can see in the second link here

https://www.bj.admin.ch/bj/de/home/g...kblaetter.html

no, not in Switzerland unless you do another registration ceremony here.

"9. Recognition of same-sex registered partnerships concluded abroad
A registered same-sex partnership validly concluded abroad is recognised in Switzerland if it complies with the principles of Swiss law.

A registered same-sex partnership is entered in the civil status register if one of the partners has Swiss nationality or is resident in Switzerland. The application for recognition must be submitted to the Swiss representation (embassy or consulate) together with the documents relating to the registered partnership.

The Swiss representation will check the documents for accuracy, legalise them and translate them, if necessary, into an official Swiss language (against payment of a fee). The documents will then be forwarded to the competent cantonal civil status supervisory authority.

The supervisory authority of the canton of origin is responsible for Swiss nationals living abroad foreigners domiciled in Switzerland, recognition is decided by the cantonal civil status supervisory authority of the canton of residence.

The cantonal supervisory authority decides on recognition. If the conditions are met, it orders the transcription of the conclusion of the partnership registered abroad in the the registers. On the basis of this decision, the registered partnership concluded abroad can be entered in the entered in the civil status register.

A marriage celebrated abroad between persons of the same sex is recognised in Switzerland as the as the conclusion of a registered partnership.

The process of recognising a foreign partnership may take some time, as may the issuance of an entry or residence permit to persons of foreign nationality."

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He would need to go back to Croatia and submit all the documents needed to the Swiss embassy/consulate and then wait for approval of the family reunification before he could come back.
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Hello everybody,

after 6 years of being in a relationship, my partner and I entered a Civil Partnership in Croatia. He is Croatian I am both Croatian and Italian.

I own a B permit.

He applied for the B permit via the Family Reunification programme since, although being an EU/EFTA citizen, he is Croatian and specific regulations apply for Croatian citizens wanting to settle in Switzerland. In case of the Family Reunification programme though, those regulations don't apply, as we have been confirmed in written by the Immigration Office in Zurich.

Today, a letter arrived from the Immigration Office saying, to our surprise, that civil partnerships from Croatia are not recognized in Switzerland and he is being asked whether it is our intention to register our civil status at the local civil registration office. The question in the letter says "Are you planning to register in a civil registration office in Switzerland?"

The letter than continues - if our plan isn't to do the registration, he should provide the following:

- a document proving he has enough financial means to live in Switzerland
- a document proving that we have been living together before my entry to Switzerland in December 2020
- a Declaration of Sponsorship signed by me and accompanied by my last three payslips and the Betreibungsregisterauszug
- the rental agreement

Now, I would have three questions:

1. Does anybody have experience with registering their marriage/partnership at the local civil registry office? If so, how does the process look like?

2. Regarding the documents we would need to provide, does anybody have any best practices, i.e. how much does he need to have on his bank account etc.? We have all the above documents in our possession and my average monthly net salary is +8K and have been working here since January 2021.

3. If I understand correctly, we can simply reply by saying that we are planning to register our civil status in our local civil registration office and we wouldn't then need to send any of the above documents (which, again, wouldn't be a problem at all), and we are good to go? Would we then need a document proving we have started the registration process?
To my understanding, the registration in this case would mean submitting the necessary documentation to the Civil Registration Office so that our partnership can be recognised in Switzerland, and not that we do another ceremony and re-enter the partnership. Any thoughts?

I would lie if I said that I am not a bit worried, although I should not be as much since we truly do have every single document they would need from us.

Finally, I would truly appreciate, if there is someone out there who found themselves in a similar situation, that they share some best practices in how to approach this.

Apologies for the long post and thank you!
Is your partner currently residing in Zurich as well? Me and my partner concluded our marriage abroad after we had lived in Zurich for 5 months. We simply handed in our marriage certificate at Kreisbüro when we returned, and it was recognized immediately. About 5 months later he went to Kreisbüro to submit the application for B permit with family reunification, and there was again no problem with it. My salary back then was way below the level you mentioned above.

In short, if you are both residing here, no need to go back to Croatia for the application etc. Just have the partnership recognized first, and then apply for the family reunification. At least in my experience.
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Is your partner currently residing in Zurich as well? Me and my partner concluded our marriage abroad after we had lived in Zurich for 5 months. We simply handed in our marriage certificate at Kreisbüro when we returned, and it was recognized immediately. About 5 months later he went to Kreisbüro to submit the application for B permit with family reunification, and there was again no problem with it. My salary back then was way below the level you mentioned above.

In short, if you are both residing here, no need to go back to Croatia for the application etc. Just have the partnership recognized first, and then apply for the family reunification. At least in my experience.
You mention marriage and OP mentions registered partnership. For the moment, marriage in Switzerland is between a man and a woman. Registered partnerships are for same-sex couples. Despite them both being partnerships, they are treated differently.

For now, same-sex couples can't get married here. Same-sex couples that married abroad aren't considered married in Switzerland. Similarly, opposite-sex couples can't do a registered partnership here. It's marriage or nothing.
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And I didn't say my marriage was recognized as "marriage" either. It was recognized, as registered partnership. My apologies that I did not mention mine is same-sex marriage concluded abroad, since I presumed that this thread was about same-sex stuff.

Meanwhile, thank you for lecturing so much. It's truly enlightening.
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