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How long to hold Swiss nationality for spouse to get simplified naturalisation

Hello everyone, I'm currently on the last stage of getting the Swiss nationality and now my wife is becoming eligible to apply for normal naturalisation as well.

However my question is that is probably better for her to wait when me and our son will be already Swiss(hopefully this year)?

For how long husband should hold Swiss nationality, then wife can apply with the simplified naturalisation?
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Re: For how long husband should hold Swiss nationality, then wife can apply with the

The spouse has to be Swiss before marriage for their other half to be eligible for simplified naturalisation. If you became Swiss after you married then she is not eligible I’m afraid.
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For how long husband should hold Swiss nationality, then wife can apply with the simplified naturalisation?

Do you want to give it up again then? Or what do you mean with holding nationality?


And as IM said, you cannot apply for simplified naturalisation, just regular naturalisation.
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Re: For how long husband should hold Swiss nationality, then wife can apply with the

why did you not do the whole family together? I would have applied for everyone at once, even if she was not strictly eligible at the time.

As pointed out, you have to be Swiss when you marry for her to take the easy path.
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Re: For how long husband should hold Swiss nationality, then wife can apply with the

Get divorced and remarry.

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Re: For how long husband should hold Swiss nationality, then wife can apply with the

Until now the best answer I get from the Swiss authorities that she has to wait 3 years after I become Swiss. Now the question if she will apply immediately and wait about 2 years or she waits 3 years and applies on simplified way
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Until now the best answer I get from the Swiss authorities that she has to wait 3 years after I become Swiss. Now the question if she will apply immediately and wait about 2 years or she waits 3 years and applies on simplified way

AFAIK there is no simplified naturalisation when you got your Swiss nationality only after you were already married.
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The spouse has to be Swiss before marriage for their other half to be eligible for simplified naturalisation. If you became Swiss after you married then she is not eligible I’m afraid.
No, you are not right
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No, you are not right
Yes I am!

“The simplified naturalisation of a foreign husband or wife is not possible if
both spouses were foreign citizens when they got married and the wife or husband acquired Swiss citizenship through ordinary naturalisation after getting married” https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...rheiratet.html
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No, you are not right

He is right! For simplified naturalization the nationality at the time of marriage counts. If at the time of marriage both partners were not Swiss then no SIMPLIFIED naturalization.


Obviously the NORMAL naturalization route still exists.


P.S- Don't groan at people when they reply to you with correct information.
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No, you are not right
yes she is. It's a fact that I've personal experience of - that facilitated naturalisation is not possible if the person you marry is not Swiss at the time you marry. My experience is quite specific because the other person was in the process of naturalisation but it was not completed.

Your groaning because you don't like a correct answer that disagrees with what you want to believe is rather cockish.
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Re: How long to hold Swiss nationality for spouse to get simplified naturalisation

I'm groaning, because I just called the immigration office and they told me that the counter starts from the time I will get the nationality. This is why
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I'm groaning, because I just called the immigration office and they told me that the counter starts from the time I will get the nationality. This is why
Only if you are not married and get married AFTER you become Swiss!

Otherwise, the person you talked to is a clueless idiot!

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Only if you are not married and get married AFTER you become Swiss!

Otherwise, the person you talked to is a clueless idiot!

Tom

Or OP didn´t give all the information
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I'm groaning, because I just called the immigration office and they told me that the counter starts from the time I will get the nationality. This is why
That’s fine. Ignore what’s on the government website, wait 3-4 years and then find out you had a mis-understanding with the person on the phone. No skin off my nose!
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Only if you are not married and get married AFTER you become Swiss!

Otherwise, the person you talked to is a clueless idiot!
Most likely clueless due to an ambiguous question, but not necessarily an idiot. It's easy to imagine from the language used earlier (the original thread title, for example, before I edited it) that the OP's question might not have been completely clear and contained all the salient facts. He clearly wasn't satisfied with the answer he got from them anyway, otherwise why ask the question here at all?
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I'm groaning, because I just called the immigration office and they told me that the counter starts from the time I will get the nationality. This is why
You were given the exact link you government sight, read it. And then remove the groans you have given out and stop acting so childish.
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Re: How long to hold Swiss nationality for spouse to get simplified naturalisation

This is you who is insulting, not me

I just wanted to apply to the logical thinking and experience of someone being in the same situation.

Anyway my wife doesn't wants to wait and already got a folder for the normal application.

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