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Timeline of citizenship and c-permit for non-eu

Hi,

I am non-eu non-us/canada living in Switzerland for almost ~8 years, and have been continuously on a B permit. I talked to the migration office and I am apparently eligible for Vinta as long as I can fulfill the language requirements.

Here are my questions:
1. If I have all the basic requirements fulfilled for Vinta, what is the probability of still getting a rejection.

2. From an integration point of view, I would only have language as a supporting evidence. I don't have any close swiss friends, although I have many non-swiss friends. Is that an issue?

3. Will I be eligible for citizenship at the 10 year mark? If yes, how much time will it take to receive it actually in hand? I heard that it can take upto 2 years for the processing.

4. Is there a possibility of rejection of citizenship despite having all the documents and requirements fulfilled.

5. I will get married soon. My partner is also non-eu. Can I request citizenship just for myself individually even if I am married or have family.

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Old 23.05.2021, 15:14
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Re: Timeline of citizenship and c-permit for non-eu

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Here are my questions:
1. If I have all the basic requirements fulfilled for Vinta, what is the probability of still getting a rejection.
If you're in canton Zurich as your profile says than it's basically zero.

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2. From an integration point of view, I would only have language as a supporting evidence. I don't have any close swiss friends, although I have many non-swiss friends. Is that an issue?
Again, for an early C permit it's absolutely not an issue in canton Zurich. They don't care once you fulfil the formal requirements (language/employment/no debts/no social help/no criminal record).

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3. Will I be eligible for citizenship at the 10 year mark? If yes, how much time will it take to receive it actually in hand? I heard that it can take upto 2 years for the processing.
Yes, if you've been living on a B permit from the start as you say.
There's no upper limit but the experience of people on this forum shows it usually takes about 1.5 to 2 years, rarely longer.

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4. Is there a possibility of rejection of citizenship despite having all the documents and requirements fulfilled.
Absolutely, the likelihood of getting citizenship varies by Gemeinde very much. The city of Zurich will likely wave you through once you fulfill the formal requirements, some small village might grill you with ludicrous questions that no sane Swiss person would be able to answer and then sink your application in a village-wide vote.

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5. I will get married soon. My partner is also non-eu. Can I request citizenship just for myself individually even if I am married or have family.
Absolutely. Beware however that if you apply for the vinta C permit after you marry you'll need to show an A2 German certificate from your spouse (if they're not Swiss or have a C permit already) even if they aren't applying, otherwise you won't get yours. You'll be also asked to prove that you actively support the integration of your not-yet-Swiss spouse during your citizenship process.
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If you're in canton Zurich as your profile says than it's basically zero.


Again, for an early C permit it's absolutely not an issue in canton Zurich. They don't care once you fulfil the formal requirements (language/employment/no debts/no social help/no criminal record).


Yes, if you've been living on a B permit from the start as you say.
There's no upper limit but the experience of people on this forum shows it usually takes about 1.5 to 2 years, rarely longer.


Absolutely, the likelihood of getting citizenship varies by Gemeinde very much. The city of Zurich will likely wave you through once you fulfill the formal requirements, some small village might grill you with ludicrous questions that no sane Swiss person would be able to answer and then sink your application in a village-wide vote.


Absolutely. Beware however that if you apply for the vinta C permit after you marry you'll need to show an A2 German certificate from your spouse (if they're not Swiss or have a C permit already) even if they aren't applying, otherwise you won't get yours. You'll be also asked to prove that you actively support the integration of your not-yet-Swiss spouse during your citizenship process.

Thanks a lot for your answers. It seems like all answers are +ve. My partner is already A1 and going to A2, whereas I haven't even started, so I believe no problems there.


One more question, if I get the citizenship, can I leave Switzerland for sometime (like a few years ~ 5) and come back without any issues?

Also, is it possible to build a second home in a different country as a swiss citizen.

Is it possible to do the same with a c-permit.
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is it possible to build a second home in a different country as a swiss citizen.
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Is it possible to do the same with a c-permit.
6 months with the C, no problem with the house.

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Great. thank you so much!!
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Re: Timeline of citizenship and c-permit for non-eu

Hi. I have an additional question:

My first 4.5 years in Switzerland were spent in a different canton and I was on a student B permit. There was some confusion regarding VinTa if those years will be counted, but the officer in migrationasmt mentioned that they are counted and technically I am eligible as long as I have language requirements fulfilled.

Will those years also be counted for citizenship?

Or, does it follow a different counting technique.

When I first came to Switzerland, I remember I received some document mentioning that these years may not count towards permanent residency requirements, but I am not exactly sure what it meant.

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