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EU citizen - 12 months contract: B or L permit?

Hi all, I know the topics on permits are quite vast, but I haven't found anything on my particular doubt - feel free to redirect me eventually.

I am an italian electronics engineer, with an MSc degree. I worked in the past in Switzerland with a B permit (valid for 5 years), but after 2 years I had to relocate back in italy for 1.5 years and I worked there.

Now I have accepted a new job offer from Switzerland again, as design engineer. I am aware that the old permit became void after I moved out and I need to ask for a new one. I also have already an AVS number.

But the contract is 12 months long, full time employee. Obviously I plan to stay a few years, and if the contract does not get extended, it would be easier with a B permit to find alternatives, while getting unemployment support in between.

Since 12 months is an overlapping requirement between L and B permit, what is the chance I will get the B instead of an L permit?
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Old 27.05.2021, 12:46
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Re: EU citizen - 12 months contract: B or L permit?

I think an L, they're for up to a year. Over a year would be a B.
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Re: EU citizen - 12 months contract: B or L permit?

I thought the same, but I also read that the B is for a duration of minimum 1 year, too.
Being a "skilled" migrant, or having other things like employer recommendation ecc, I wonder if this could weight in favor of B permit or is definitely out of the options.
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Old 27.05.2021, 13:58
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I thought the same, but I also read that the B is for a duration of minimum 1 year, too.
Being a "skilled" migrant, or having other things like employer recommendation ecc, I wonder if this could weight in favor of B permit or is definitely out of the options.

Minimum one year means that your contract, when you apply for the permit, is more than 12 months. Being skilled etc has no impact on EU citizens.
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Minimum one year means that your contract, when you apply for the permit, is more than 12 months. Being skilled etc has no impact on EU citizens.
I see. While searching around, I also read in more than in one place about "Persons who settle in the country without gainful employment (provided they have enough financial backing) also receive a B permit."

If am not broke I can still ask for it? Ever heard about this?
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Re: EU citizen - 12 months contract: B or L permit?

And also free movement of people guarantees right to reside for an EU worker, not the right to a certain type permit.

Awarding an EU an L and have them renew it every year even if on an open-ended contract would be perfectly legal.

Some cantons issue Ls during the probation period first and only after do they issue a 5 year B for some EUs even if on an open-ended contract. All this to avoid the risk of them claiming unemployment benefits if the new hire is not a match.
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to avoid the risk of them claiming unemployment benefits if the new hire is not a match.
Oh makes sense money-wise. I guess if I don't have a suggestion from the employer, then I will likely get the L. I guess is not the end of the world, as many people have that.

Now I'll wait, and if I get the L, I'll desperately look in this forum again to not feel the only one fighting with the house hunting. Luckily, there is Air Bnb too...
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Oh makes sense money-wise. I guess if I don't have a suggestion from the employer, then I will likely get the L. I guess is not the end of the world, as many people have that.

Now I'll wait, and if I get the L, I'll desperately look in this forum again to not feel the only one fighting with the house hunting. Luckily, there is Air Bnb too...
Make sure that's acceptable to whatever canton you move to, not all accept AirBnB accommodation for permit applicants.
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Make sure that's acceptable to whatever canton you move to, not all accept AirBnB accommodation for permit applicants.
Thanks. In this regard should be simpler: the employer is giving me a temporary location which can be used for the permit request. The Air BnB would be after I would already have the L type - hope that would be possible/simpler
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Re: EU citizen - 12 months contract: B or L permit?

Not really. You need to be able to put your name on the post box to receive mail wherever you're living; and changing address means you need to inform the gemeinde/commune and will probably have to pay for a new permit with the new address assuming they accept it. And then the same when you find a permanent place to live.
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Not really. You need to be able to put your name on the post box to receive mail wherever you're living; and changing address means you need to inform the gemeinde/commune and will probably have to pay for a new permit with the new address assuming they accept it. And then the same when you find a permanent place to live.
2 questions out of this:

1. what if the Air BnB owner accept me to register for a given amount of months? Is this scam?
2. with the B permit I changed house 2 times, all I had to do was to go to the municipality with the contract papers and that's it. If someone change house, with the L type, one needs to apply for a new permit everytime?
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with the L type, one needs to apply for a new permit everytime?
(within the same canton - I read about limitations, if having an L permit and changing canton)

PS: sorry for the sully question, but how can I modify my messages here?
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2. with the B permit I changed house 2 times, all I had to do was to go to the municipality with the contract papers and that's it. If someone change house, with the L type, one needs to apply for a new permit everytime?

You do not apply for a new permit, you just have to change the address on the permit.
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2 questions out of this:

1. what if the Air BnB owner accept me to register for a given amount of months? Is this scam?
2. with the B permit I changed house 2 times, all I had to do was to go to the municipality with the contract papers and that's it. If someone change house, with the L type, one needs to apply for a new permit everytime?
No, not necessarily a scam, but some cantons just don't accept AirBnB as suitable accommodation for registrations. That why you need to check with the cantonal migration office before you book anything like that.

You're not applying for a new permit, but any change of address for any permit means they issue you with a new one - which you have to pay for.

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As for editing that might come when you have 10 or more posts here, same as the thanks and groans buttons.
Then, thanks for now! (Also to Roegner, and anyone else which will further reply)
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If am not broke I can still ask for it? Ever heard about this?
Thats for wealthy people who don't need a job to support themselves.
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