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Old 03.07.2021, 12:32
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[IST SAGA] B permit for baby born abroad from married non-Swiss couple

Hello ladies and gentlemen and welcome to another exciting episode of the "Italian-Swiss-Taiwanese Saga"

I am trying to figure out what the exact procedure is. Spoiler: We have already done a TON of bureaucracy and read different sources, but I wanted to ask you directly in case you know how this works.

Summary of previous episodes: I am Italian, resident in Zurich with a B permit (C next year hopefully). My partner (now wife) is Taiwanese, resident in Taiwan. We got married in Taiwan two months ago. Our baby was born last month, also in Taiwan. We left Taiwan a few days ago and are now enjoying quarantine in Italy, waiting to get back to Zurich all together as soon as possible. Please don't ask why we did it this way, let's just say that Corona complicated our life plans a bit.

I think I have sorted things out for my wife to have a B permit soon, but in the meantime we need to plan for the baby.

What we have done already: we have a birth certificate of baby (from the Taiwanese hospital) in English, also marriage certificate in English and Taiwanese household registration transcript in English. Then, before leaving Taiwan we managed to get both Taiwanese and Italian passports for our baby (with the "right" name on both, which was not trivial). At the Italian consulate, ehm... "trade office" in Taiwan we also had our marriage and the birth of the baby registered (for the Italian authorities).

What we have NOT done: we have not registered the birth of our baby at the "Swiss trade office" in Taipei, nor applied for a family reunification visa for the baby, they said it wouldn't be a problem since baby has Italian passport.

What is missing for the baby:
  1. enrolling baby at the official register of Italians resident abroad (AIRE) at the Italian consulate in Zurich
  2. get the B permit for baby, I guess at the Gemeinde where I live
After this is done it's gonna be health insurance, childcare, etc etc, but first things first.

Questions: what should we do first? AIRE registration or B permit? (for me it was first B permit then AIRE) How do I get the B permit for the baby?

Thank you in advance for any useful tip
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Old 03.07.2021, 13:18
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Re: [IST SAGA] B permit for baby born abroad from married non-Swiss couple

Simply apply at the gemeinde for the permit, it should be easy since it has Italian citizenship.

Question is did you apply for family reunification for your wife and get it approved? She would need a Type D visa to enter Switzerland for more than the 90 day tourist limit and she would only be given that if the permit had been approved.
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Simply apply at the gemeinde for the permit, it should be easy since it has Italian citizenship.
OK, fingers crossed! I have also contacted the Gemeinde directly asking for clarification, let's see what they say.

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Question is did you apply for family reunification for your wife and get it approved? She would need a Type D visa to enter Switzerland for more than the 90 day tourist limit and she would only be given that if the permit had been approved.
Correct, yes, we applied. At the Swiss consular office in Taipei they said we should receive notification 4-12 weeks later (so, 2-12 weeks from now) but they also told us that the Migrationsamt in Zurich is usually fast on this, and they see no reason why it shouldn't be approved (but let me shut up). They also helped us to find a workaround so my wife does not need to go back in person to Taipei to pick up the visa, and after getting the D visa it should be very fast to get the B permit. I think it's safe if she stays in Switzerland on her 90-days tourist visa until then.
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...I think it's safe if she stays in Switzerland on her 90-days tourist visa until then.
Don't be shocked if you get some push-back for that. Some authorities are more kind than others. When your wife enters on a tourist visa, she's declaring the intention to visit, not to stay.

By changing that and asking to stay, she's trying to skirt round the rule of having a D-visa approved before entering. But some cantons look the other way. Or they still insist on the D-visa but she'd need to go to a neighboring country (Italy for example) to have it stamped.

Congrats on the marriage and birth of your child! Exciting times!
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