How to convert a "simple adoption"

dweers · #1 01.08.2021, 11:49

Does anyone have experience with converting "simple adoption" to a "full adoption"?
What documents need to be filed where, etc?
Thanks!

st2lemans · #2 01.08.2021, 15:19

What is a simple adoption?

Tom

meloncollie · #3 01.08.2021, 16:38

	Quote:	st2lemans
	What is a simple adoption? Tom

Difference between a simple and full adoption in Switzerland:

Was ist der Unterschied zwischen einer einfachen Adoption und einer Volladoption?

https://www.bj.admin.ch/bj/de/home/g...tslaender.html

It's based on the country of origin of the child. Some countries grant a simple form of adoption where, for example, the birth parent-child relationship continues to exist in part, or the adopted child does not acquire the nationality of the adoptive parents.

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Dweers, was the adoption done in another country then later recognized in Switzerland?

Did the authorities give you their reasons for not allowing a full adoption here?

Medea Fleecestealer · #4 01.08.2021, 17:13

Outlined here

	Quote:	dweers
	I have just gone through adoption of my step daughter from abroad. It was a horrendous process. The Swiss Embassy in Thailand was absolutely incompetent: They wasted months of time, did not respond to emails or phone calls, requested wrong documents, lost documents I sent, did incorrect procedures, even sent my documents to the wrong Swiss office. A process that should have lasted 3 weeks took them more than 8 months. After that was a 2 month fight with the Cantonal adoption office in Chur to get the adoption recognized as a "full" adoption. Even thought all requirements of the Hague Convention on Adoption were fulfilled, the Chur people "decided" that was a "simple adoption"- meaning that my step daughter cannot get Swiss citizenship! At this point I am convinced that the adoption office here purposely came to this conclusion just to avoid giving her Swiss citizenship. As Jordon is not a member of the Hague Convention, I am guessing that you will have a large struggle to get the adoption done at all. I strongly suggest that you get a Swiss lawyer with strong background in foreign adoption to help you.

https://www.englishforum.ch/family-m...ml#post3333351

dweers · #5 04.08.2021, 10:34

	Quote:	meloncollie
	Difference between a simple and full adoption in Switzerland: Was ist der Unterschied zwischen einer einfachen Adoption und einer Volladoption? https://www.bj.admin.ch/bj/de/home/g...tslaender.html It's based on the country of origin of the child. Some countries grant a simple form of adoption where, for example, the birth parent-child relationship continues to exist in part, or the adopted child does not acquire the nationality of the adoptive parents. --- Dweers, was the adoption done in another country then later recognized in Switzerland? Did the authorities give you their reasons for not allowing a full adoption here?

Hi,
Yes, the adoption was done in another country and recognized here.
No, the Swiss office gave no tangible reason for not giving a full adoption.
What are my options? Any and all advice gladly accepted.
Thanks!

meloncollie · #6 04.08.2021, 11:16

Dweers - maybe a long shot, but:

You mentioned in the other thread that the Chur adoption office decided on simple rather than full adoption. But your location is listed as Basel. Do you live in Basel now? If so, I wonder if speaking with the Basel agencey might get you further information?

https://www.jfs.bs.ch/fuer-familien/...dadoption.html

Wishing you and your family all the best.

dweers · #7 05.08.2021, 20:06

It is a term used by the Swiss Immigration people to disqualify the adopted child from Swiss Citizenship. They use it aggressively, with little to no legal justification, at least in my experience.

dweers · #8 05.08.2021, 20:13

	Quote:	meloncollie
	Dweers - maybe a long shot, but: You mentioned in the other thread that the Chur adoption office decided on simple rather than full adoption. But your location is listed as Basel. Do you live in Basel now? If so, I wonder if speaking with the Basel agencey might get you further information? https://www.jfs.bs.ch/fuer-familien/...dadoption.html Wishing you and your family all the best.

Hi Meloncholie (geat name)

No, I live in Lugano now.
I am getting a similar legal run around here as I had in Chur.
It is becoming apparent that Swiss Cantonal offices do every thing in their power to deny Swiss citizenship to adoptees, unfortunately.

But the battle goes on. Any and all help would be much appreciated from any members!

Thanks again,