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Pre-brexit B permit, what now?

Hi Guys ,

UK national started a PhD last year. I agreed with the professor in charge of the lab that we would 'give it a year' and see how it suited both of us.

It will be a year on 31st August and I have decided that I don't want to be in academia.

Is my B permit still valid even if I quit?

Is it in any way tied to the role as a PhD candidate (or technically 'scientific assistant' ) ?

Can anyone reassure me, that I can apply for new jobs with the assumption that my current permit will continue to be valid? And that additionally I can claim job-seeker's (after 3 months of seeking ) ?

Is any of this affected by the fact that I am now a 3rd country national?

The permit is a green credit card sized thing. It has the following text :

'berechigt zur erwerbstatigkeit'

and

'ausweiss EU gultig fur die ganze schweiz'

I have:

- started looking for other jobs in switzerland
- registered with RAV and had a meeting with my consultant
- not mentioned anything to my employer.

The RAV consultant didn't mention anything but I think he was rather more an expert on interview technique than bureaucracy. . . or he certainly considered himself and expert on interview technique. In any case, a nice man but currently on vacation, as am I, until next week. I need an answer on this soonish, so I can form an exit strategy and make more concrete applications.

There is an added complication, that my notice period technically increases from 1 to 3 months on the 1st of September. So there is some time pressure to have the conversation. I don't really want to be tied in for another 3 months, but I suspect my employer would rather that I didn't cut and run 4 weeks later.

I want to suggest a rolling 1-month contract, with 80% employment to give me time to jobhunt. I wonder how an employer would respond in your experience?
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Old 17.08.2021, 06:36
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Re: Pre-brexit B permit, what now?

Since you got your permit before the start of 2021, your rights remain as they were.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...ne-rechte.html
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Re: Pre-brexit B permit, what now?

You got your permit before Brexit?
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Re: Pre-brexit B permit, what now?

From the UK Gov "Living in Switzerland" guide https://www.gov.uk/guidance/living-i...n-switzerland:

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If you were living in Switzerland before 1 January 2021

You have the right to work under the Citizens’ Rights Agreement.
Under the CRA, you should be treated as if you are a quasi-EU citizen.
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Re: Pre-brexit B permit, what now?

You are entitled to any employment with no dependency on your current employer (berechigt zur erwerbstatigkeit). You still hold a valid "EU B-permit"

What will be trickier is how to put this on your CV and make sure prospective employers understand they can employ you without all the bureaucracy needed to employ the 3rd country national.
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Re: Pre-brexit B permit, what now?

OK thanks, so it seems it's not affected by brexit as I received my permit pre-brexit. That's what I thought

I also am hoping for reassurance that my permit is not tied to my current job. Is there a way to find this out? Would it be obvious on my permit or paperwork?

Thanks
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Re: Pre-brexit B permit, what now?

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OK thanks, so it seems it's not affected by brexit as I received my permit pre-brexit. That's what I thought

I also am hoping for reassurance that my permit is not tied to my current job. Is there a way to find this out? Would it be obvious on my permit or paperwork?

Thanks
As an EU citizen (or pre-brexit Brit) you are free to change jobs as and when you want!
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Re: Pre-brexit B permit, what now?

Ok Great news. I have written something to the effect of 'Swiss resident with B permit valid until xx'

Since my CV shows I have been here since well before the brexit 'cliff' I hope they will also assume the best case.
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OK thanks, so it seems it's not affected by brexit as I received my permit pre-brexit. That's what I thought

I also am hoping for reassurance that my permit is not tied to my current job. Is there a way to find this out? Would it be obvious on my permit or paperwork?

Thanks
EU permits are not job related.
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Re: Pre-brexit B permit, what now?

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You are entitled to any employment with no dependency on your current employer (berechigt zur erwerbstatigkeit). You still hold a valid "EU B-permit"

What will be trickier is how to put this on your CV and make sure prospective employers understand they can employ you without all the bureaucracy needed to employ the 3rd country national.
This.

Make sure that pretty high up in your cover letter you explain that you have a pre-Brexit B-permit and their HR won't need to go through a non-EU employment process...

It's one of the first filters I see when working with HR - EU vs other...
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