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Sabbatical (non-EU, C permit): effects on naturalization, C permit?

Hey!

I was typing a looong post, but then everything disappeared (silly me for not backing it up)

Does anyone know any stories about people taking sabbatical on C permit, and then having problems during the naturalization, or having their C permit downgraded?

Let's assume that when applying for naturalization the person is employed (but had some gap sabbatical years while on C permit)

Let's also assume that during the sabbatical the person is integrated (language, paying the bills, residing in Switzerland), just that they don't have an employer.

As a disclaimer: yes, it's a very risky choice to take sabbatical, many bad things can happen, like sudden bankruptcy, illness, getting sued, etc. If possible, let's try to focus on government side of this problem.

From what I read on https://www.sem.admin.ch/dam/sem/de/...ngen-aug-d.pdf

Quote:
(8.3.3.3)
Beispiele einer Rückstufung
Beispiele für eine Rückstufung können sein:
− klare Indizien für einen fehlenden Willen zur Teilnahme am Wirtschaftsleben oder zum
Erwerb von Bildung (z. B. freiwillige Arbeitslosigkeit, Weigerung Sprach- oder Integrationskurs zu besuchen);
− wenn sich nach Bewilligungserteilung erweist, dass die berechtigten, stufengerechten
Erwartungen an die Integration nicht erfüllt werden.
Dazu sind verschiedene Konstellationen möglich, zum Beispiel:
Sachverhalt Gründe für Rückstufung
Nach einer vorzeitigen Erteilung der Niederlassungsbewilligung werden die Erwartung an die
Integration nicht erfüllt (z. 15. DEuB. ungenügende Teilnahme am Wirtschaftsleben, Schulden, selbstverschuldete Arbeitslosigkeit).
Rückstufung möglich, sofern absehbar ist, dass
eine Verwarnung nicht zum Ziel führt und nicht
eine aktive Täuschung der Behörden über den
Grad der Integration vorliegt; denn dann wäre
ein Widerrufsgrund nach Art. 63 Abs. 1 AIG gegeben.
It seems like not participating in economic life is a good reason to downgrade the C permit. If one is unemployed and not on RAV (so relying just on savings, not super rich, but enough to cover several years of expenses), I assume this may count as unwillingness to participate in economic life and thus lead to the downgrade.

I would be happy to hear your experiences, if any.
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Integration is key to retaining your permis and eventually naturalisation. If you are truly integrated all the rest is moot.
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Re: Sabbatical (non-EU, C permit): effects on naturalization, C permit?

one could start by being nit-picky about the definition of sabbatical (traditionally paid leave granted by an employer, usually a university, though expanded to include a realm of other industries/employers) with the security of returning to a job at the end of the sabbatical period
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