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Re: Non-EU spouse of an EU citizen + C permit holder

well nicki, you're in actually in a better sitatuation than i am. it's so messed up in CH...if you're a non-EU married to an EU you have more rights than a non-EU married to a CH. go figure.

so i should think as long as you can prove your married to an EU if the two of you want to move to CH you shouldn't have too many difficulties.

but there are people on this forum who know a lot more than I do...so perhaps someone has a different opinion?
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Re: Non-EU spouse of an EU citizen + C permit holder

i think that this site is very good in educating oneself,Especially one of the guys named Richard...he sounds like he has had alot of experience.
Thanks for replying back.
The only thing that announce me is the dep of Justice and Equality in Dublin is so not helpful,they don't even allow you to come to there offices in person,so all my paperwork gets done via the mail system and phone and we all know how reliable that is.

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Re: Non-EU spouse of an EU citizen + C permit holder

Nicki,

I had a lot of trouble understanding what you were trying to say, but I think you are asking a question about an "EU residency permit". You seem to make a lot of references to Ireland and Dublin, but nothing at all about Switzerland. This leads me to believe that you might actually be on the wrong forum. This is a forum for issues about Switzerland, which you already know is not a member of the EU. Therefore I believe you might be in the wrong place, but I'm only guessing based on what you gave us to go from (which was not much).
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Permit L + spouse

Hi,

I am new , i hope i am putting the question in right Thread

I have a B student permit since 5 years.I am from Nepal. My girlfriend is from Austrian and she has L permit since last 2 years.She works for a Swiss insurance Company since 2 years.We plan to get married in Vienna next month. Than we come back to Switzerland. My B student permit expires in Decembre. Do i get any work permit based on my wife after our marraige?

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New Question : L Permits but EU working spouse

Hello -

We are a Danish American family living Basel. My husband is Danish & is the one working. I am the following spouse who is getting bored & thinking about starting to work. I am a trained counselor & would like to work independently (Self employed). I have read through many of the threads in this site and understand the following:

-we have the right ot B permits but have L permits because the quota for EU B's were probably full when we arrived 18 mos ago.

-When my husband receives an EU B I will as well. This will give me the right to work as well as the right to work for myself.

-Becoming a counselor for myself will need approval by the stadt which may involve my education & previous experience being reviewed.

Can anyone confirm what I have concluded from reading the threads on this site as well as other internet research I have done.

Also, can we speed up the process of receiving the EU Bs that we are due?

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Re: Permit L + spouse

Hi,

I am new , i hope i am putting the question in right Thread

I have a B student permit since 5 years.I am from Nepal. My girlfriend is from Austrian and she has L permit since last 2 years.She works for a Swiss insurance Company since 2 years.We plan to get married in Vienna next month. Than we come back to Switzerland. My B student permit expires in Decembre. Do i get any work permit based on my wife after our marraige?

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Re: Permit L + spouse

Hi,

I would like to ask this question to Richard. His answers are so convincing about other questions he answered.

I have a B student permit since 5 years.I am from Nepal. My girlfriend is from Austrian and she has L permit since last 2 years.She works for a Swiss insurance Company since 2 years.We plan to get married in Vienna next month. Than we come back to Switzerland. My B student permit expires in Decembre. Do i get any work permit based on my wife after our marraige?

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I would like to ask this question to Richard. His answers are so convincing about other questions he answered.

I have a B student permit since 5 years.I am from Nepal. My girlfriend is from Austrian and she has L permit since last 2 years.She works for a Swiss insurance Company since 2 years.We plan to get married in Vienna next month. Than we come back to Switzerland. My B student permit expires in Decembre. Do i get any work permit based on my wife after our marraige?

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Well thanks for the compliments, anyway seeing as you are asking I better answer your question!

Put simply no. The situation is as follows, you have a permit in your own right albeit a student permit - your future wife has an L permit and is an EU citizen. After marriage you will become the spouse of an EU citizen but one that does not have the right to bring in family due to being an L permit. Hence you need to stand on your own feet until June. In June with the abolishment of quotas on permits for EU citizens your wife will receive a "new" permit which will entitle her to bring in family. I say new because today it is a little unclear how this will work with the ZAR # - which is your unique identifier. Effectively it will be a B permit valid for 5 years Swiss wide. Once this system comes in you too will get one. Now if you were to marry in Switzerland or to be married on entry then you would get a permit on the back of your wife, however for now you will simply need to wait a few more weeks...

Question I have is does your permit expire in December 2007 - if so you have nothing to worry about you will get a permit on application in June 2007 although it will almost certainly not allow you to work but to be present here... I would however suggest you try as at the start they are more than likely to be generous in their ignorance of the rules...
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Re: Permit L + spouse

Hi Richard,

As expected, you replied almost 75% of my question.hurray. So i will be getting something dependent permit on basis of my wife. But i cannot work on that permit ,unless she gets a B from june onwards.

Answering your question, I have the permit till June 2007.Than i will apply again untill Decembre2007 , which i will get it due to my studies. Reading your answer i just realised that you meant to say that i should marry in Switzerland. Than perhaps i can get the same status as my wife i.e. L permit. Just need a suggetion, Is it better to get married in CH though we both are not swiss. OR Is it better to get married in Austria. Or it does not matter.

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Hi Richard,

As expected, you replied almost 75% of my question.hurray. So i will be getting something dependent permit on basis of my wife. But i cannot work on that permit ,unless she gets a B from june onwards.

Answering your question, I have the permit till June 2007.Than i will apply again untill Decembre2007 , which i will get it due to my studies. Reading your answer i just realised that you meant to say that i should marry in Switzerland. Than perhaps i can get the same status as my wife i.e. L permit. Just need a suggetion, Is it better to get married in CH though we both are not swiss. OR Is it better to get married in Austria. Or it does not matter.

Many thanks
Ummm, Well I thought you asked whether you would get a work permit based on your wife (when she is...) and I answered that question...

If you intend to live in Switzerland post marriage, marrying in Switzerland is the way. This makes permits and relationships much easier - however "is it better" is a strange phrase. I am of the VERY firm belief that if you are going to be committing to something or in this case someone for the rest of your life then it should be in the way best for you and by far the majority of women want to get married in their home town so that for me would be the best place to get married even if that does make life ever so slightly more difficult in Switzerland.

With respect to your permit - your wife should get or at least will be entitled to a non-quota permit as of June 2007. At this point she can bring in family members and that would entitle you to a permit as I said before. The step from residence permit to work permit is much smaller than otherwise and I do suspect you will get an EU work permit based on your wife - but hey you are in the middle of your studies so where is the problem?!
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Re: Permit L + spouse

Hi Richard,

thank you very much. Your advice is very helpful to me.Yes i am still studying but i was just thinking about future , thus i asked you those questions. Its very convincing. By the way when are you replacing the director of OCP?. "Office cantonal population":-) Because you have more knowledge than him :-) thanks a lot for your advice.
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Very funny

Oh and I aspire to be Richard's apprentice....
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A lot of people and nearly all Swiss people believe that someone marrying a Swiss citizen must have as many rights as anyone can get. This is not true. The negotiation of the EU with Switzerland has produced situations where the EU Citizen or spouse thereof etc has more rights than the spouse of a Swiss citizen or things are handled differently.
In this regard, is it true that a non-EU spouse of an EU citizen in Switzerland gets a residence permit valid for 5 years (or like his/her EU spouse?). Just heard it somewhere but not so sure about it..
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Re: Non-EU spouse of an EU citizen + C permit holder

It would seem that Richards replies to your question have answered most of mine. But, as always there are slight differences.

Does the same apply to a Non-EU (Canadian) who doesn't have a work permit or residency permit in an EU country?

My girlfriend is a German National with a c-permit in Basel.

I wouldn't actually be interested at this time in 'working' in Switzerland as I'm a consultant for a Norwegian Company operating subsea construction vessel and as such work 4-5 months a year on vessels in the North Sea or elswhere?

I imagine that in this case I might need legal advice to ensure that I'm not be taxed in both Norway and Switzerland.

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Re: Non-EU spouse of an EU citizen + C permit holder

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I am new to this and am not pretty sure whether this is the right thread where I would put my query but since I found releated stuff.......

I have a L permit(non-EU) and I am working in Zurich. My wife(non-EU) has also joined me in Zurich with a dependant visa. She has an IT experience of 2 years.
Would she be elligible to work full time/ temporary based on this permit?
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I am new to this and am not pretty sure whether this is the right thread where I would put my query but since I found releated stuff.......

I have a L permit(non-EU) and I am working in Zurich. My wife(non-EU) has also joined me in Zurich with a dependant visa. She has an IT experience of 2 years.
Would she be elligible to work full time/ temporary based on this permit?
This is easy. Yes and no. No she cannot work unless she has someone who is going to sponsor her for a work permit to the residence permit she has through you. To be honest given that this is IT unless she is working in a niche area like PL/1 or z/OS then there is little chance.
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Re: Non-EU spouse of an EU citizen + C permit holder

Thanks Richard for clearing this off to me. Would be better if you can tell me how she would get the work permit from residence one? I mean can she apply for jobs and if she clears the interview, would the employer take the initiative to convert it to work permit? Can I as a person sponsor her for converting it to work permit. I am sorry if I sound a but dumb as I am not very clear about the permits.
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It would seem that Richards replies to your question have answered most of mine. But, as always there are slight differences.

Does the same apply to a Non-EU (Canadian) who doesn't have a work permit or residency permit in an EU country?

My girlfriend is a German National with a c-permit in Basel.

I wouldn't actually be interested at this time in 'working' in Switzerland as I'm a consultant for a Norwegian Company operating subsea construction vessel and as such work 4-5 months a year on vessels in the North Sea or elswhere?

I imagine that in this case I might need legal advice to ensure that I'm not be taxed in both Norway and Switzerland.

Thanks
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If you are working 4-5 months of the year in the North Sea the question is really what status are you working as. I.e. are you employed to do your "operating" or are you actually freelancing. If you are freelancing then there is nothing to stop you being quite clever with the way you set yourself up. And of course that would mean not paying tax in Norway - which as I understand it is quite high so high its called skatter...

As far as Switzerland is concerned there are no real issues as you can live 3 months on a tourist visa and if you are 4-6 months out of the country there should not be a problem at all unless you do 4 months on 8 months off in one slot which I assume you do not do.
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Thanks Richard for clearing this off to me. Would be better if you can tell me how she would get the work permit from residence one? I mean can she apply for jobs and if she clears the interview, would the employer take the initiative to convert it to work permit?
Yes, if the employer is willing to do so and if it thinks there are chances for the permit to be approved. Which as of next year will be very difficult.

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