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APP 06.02.2007 21:57

Girlfriend moving over (UK)
 
I have trawled through quite a few of the threads but I'm still unclear on the policy on this one.

I am British and have had a B permit for over a year now. When I first came over, I was on a temporary contract but am now permanent. Having done the long distance relationship thing for too long, my girlfriend, also British, wants to move over. She has an interview lined up but of course nothing is certain. From what I have read so far, when she arrives she will not be eligible for a B permit unless she finds work and will only be able to stay for an initial period of 3 months. If she wants to stay longer, she needs to ask for a 3 month extension. If she still has not found work by this point, she will need to return to the UK-have I got this right?

I have heard elsewhere that quotas for EU-B permits will be lifted in May 2007. Will this have any affect on her situation?

In practical terms how does this work. Do I need to register her arrival at the relevant office? As we will head back to the Uk about once a month, is there any point in doing this because as soon as I register her the 3 month clock starts ticking?

Desumacchi 21.04.2007 02:15

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This is an interesting question that the OP has orginally made as i potentially find myself in a similar situation....

Can anyone shed any light on this?

jbrady 21.04.2007 06:11

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This is an extract I found on http://www.lowtax.net/lowtax/html/jswlab.html. Perhaps this helps.
"Eventually, EU-citizens will have complete freedom of movement within Switzerland and Swiss citizens within EU-countries. However, there will be a fixed quota for work permits until 31 May 2007 with a maximum of 15,000 new long-term residence permits a year and 115,500 new short-term residence permits a year.
On 31 May 2007, quotas for EU citizens wishing to work in Switzerland will be suspended. As of June 2009 Switzerland will make a decision on whether or not to extend the agreement. If the response is positive, freedom of movement will be fully introduced between Switzerland and the EU as of June 2014."

jbrady 21.04.2007 06:14

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Personally, I would just wait until your girlfriend gets a job and then sort out the paperwork.

Pepper 21.04.2007 08:37

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I'm in the same situation, my OH has a B permit and I have joined him. When I registered he confirmed he would support me, since then I have had to provide evidence of any available money I have and now he has to sign a decleration that he will support me and prove he has the funds for us both. I don't know how it will end as I have a job now and I'm still waiting on my residence permit!

gbn 21.04.2007 10:02

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My girlfriend joined me here in Swtzerland.
She registered and got a 6 month "L" permit.
After 6 months she got another one, but this overlapped with getting a job so had to change it (paperwork exercise).
She just had to show she had been looking for a job.

I would register here and sort out health insurance etc.

The quota system for EU citizens is removed from 1 Jun 2007.

Many people from the EU are on "L" permits despite being permanent employees because the quota for "B" permits has effectively run out.

gbn 21.04.2007 10:07

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Originally Posted by jbrady (Post 53241)
Personally, I would just wait until your girlfriend gets a job and then sort out the paperwork.

Personally, I wouldn't.

It's illegal and gives no benefit.

No bank account, no health insurance, etc

eireann 21.04.2007 12:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepper (Post 53247)
I'm in the same situation, my OH has a B permit and I have joined him. When I registered he confirmed he would support me, since then I have had to provide evidence of any available money I have and now he has to sign a decleration that he will support me and prove he has the funds for us both. I don't know how it will end as I have a job now and I'm still waiting on my residence permit!


Hi Pepper, we have a similar situtation and so I´m interested in what you´re doing - do I understand correctly that you have moved to CH with no residence or work permit just with the guarantee that your OH will support you or that you have sufficient funds for yourself? And this means you don´t have to do the tourist thing and can apply for work/residence permit while living there? Is this dependent on where you´re originating from? - we´r both from the EU. Please keep me/us updated on what happens and hope everything works out for you :D

jbrady 21.04.2007 13:20

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Sorry GBM - I meant as a tourist - going back to UK each month with the E111 until she gets a firm offer. As for bank account - not much use without a job. I thought she was living with her boyfriend. Not endorsing illegal residency, I just presumed that the job would only take a few weeks to find in the current low unemployment market and then in June all will be easy.

gbn 21.04.2007 14:38

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Originally Posted by jbrady (Post 53299)
Sorry GBM - I meant as a tourist - going back to UK each month with the E111 until she gets a firm offer. As for bank account - not much use without a job. I thought she was living with her boyfriend. Not endorsing illegal residency, I just presumed that the job would only take a few weeks to find in the current low unemployment market and then in June all will be easy.

ha ha ha.
Unless your skills are desirable or you work in IT, jobs are hard to come by.

But: even if you get a job, they may want a permit already because the impression given is that you are living here already.

Such little things as:
GF's name of the apartment contract with name on letter box.
In our Gemeinde office (local government/council) the attitude to my GF changed completely when they saw she was on the flat contract.

From June, it makes no difference: it only affects working people who should be on "B" permits.

Easy to find a job he he he...

jbrady 21.04.2007 17:36

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I have worked in switzerland 6 months collecting garbage, 2 months sorting plastic, wood and cement on a grader, worked in restaurant kitchens for months, looked after old people in altersheims, IT DBA and programmer, gardeners assistant and delivering adverts and newspapers during the night in Kreis 4 in Zurich also painting and cleaning with my wife. My main job as it happens is IT but it was hard for 3 years over here. I have also worked all round the world since 16 (farming in Cambodia after the genocide, in Zimbarbwee, Namibia and the Philipines doing lots of strange things including 2 years as deckhand on an asian ship) and have never been unemployed for more than a couple of weeks since I was 15 years old (for 32 years now). In the last 9 years in Switzerland (16 for my wife who has zero education) we never took abeitslos and do not really speak passable German. Suppose it depends on how high your standards are and how much you really want the money and work. Horses for courses

gbn 22.04.2007 12:51

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Lucky you.
Perhaps explain how you did it to all those people looking for jobs here.

jbrady 22.04.2007 13:32

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Will try a bit, but it was 4 and a half years ago since I last needed to look. Frank Werder agency found a lot of day work - mainly working on building sites. There used to be a daily pickup for day work at Helvetcia Platz also. J Grimm AG Ensortigung in Oetwil am See was for the grading work and inital rubbish collection, but a very early start. Once you get known for a few days, the people you work with tend to pass around where other work is. The newspaper and adverts delivery job is normally a dead cert - "Direct Mail" was the place my wife and I worked for - they have a high turn over of employees - little soul destroying, but you could almost pick your own times especially in winter, but was good for filling in when the daily work dried up a bit. My friends wife got me the work in the Altersheims - yet again once you get through the first few days, it purpetuates a bit. Living for 5 years in Kries 4 probably made it much easier to make contacts with the work - the Thais and Philipinos always have a network for jobs - especially in restaurants and they usually speak English. The start of the gardening work was typical UK style - met a bloke in a bar and he wanted help digging a swimming pool by hand. No real method or structure to finding work - maybe I was lucky - my wife had a few friends here and perhaps it is harder now and I had an address and permit.

Pepper 22.04.2007 13:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eireann (Post 53291)
Hi Pepper, we have a similar situtation and so I´m interested in what you´re doing - do I understand correctly that you have moved to CH with no residence or work permit just with the guarantee that your OH will support you or that you have sufficient funds for yourself? And this means you don´t have to do the tourist thing and can apply for work/residence permit while living there? Is this dependent on where you´re originating from? - we´r both from the EU. Please keep me/us updated on what happens and hope everything works out for you :D

Yes you're right that I came over without a job or permit but you can be here for 3 months as a visitor/ tourist. I registered as soon as I got here because we are intending being here a few years. We're both EU and OH's job is sufficient for us both even if I hadn't got a job (although obviously it's better with one!) We figured the worst case scenario was I would be refused residency and have to go home for a month or so as we get married in the summer and I believe I would definitely get residency after that.

Sherer4 07.09.2010 10:54

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Hi all, just wanted a couple of tips and up to date info if possible :)

First of all i'm from the uk working in Lausanne with a B permit, I've got a apartment for a year all in my own name.

My girlfriend, still in the UK is coming over 1st Nov to search for a job (Unless by some miracle she gets offered something while still in the UK) and will move into my apartment.

As far as I can understand she applys for a permit (L?) when she gets here which intitles her to stay for 3mths as a tourist and then after applies for a jobseekers permit to stay a further 3mths?

My questions,
*Will she have to get health insurance from day 1?
*Will I have to let my apartment and in turn insurances know that she is living with me from day one?
*What issues can I expect to face, will I have to sponser her or anything?
*If she has certain amount of money in the bank does this make anything easier with regards permits and me supporting her?

I've already spent an hour searching through threads but all seem either old or slightly differing circumstances.

So any corrections, answers or advice would be greatly received!

Thanks

Harrie Nak 11.04.2011 15:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherer4 (Post 934784)
Hi all, just wanted a couple of tips and up to date info if possible :)

First of all i'm from the uk working in Lausanne with a B permit, I've got a apartment for a year all in my own name.

My girlfriend, still in the UK is coming over 1st Nov to search for a job (Unless by some miracle she gets offered something while still in the UK) and will move into my apartment.

As far as I can understand she applys for a permit (L?) when she gets here which intitles her to stay for 3mths as a tourist and then after applies for a jobseekers permit to stay a further 3mths?

My questions,
*Will she have to get health insurance from day 1?
*Will I have to let my apartment and in turn insurances know that she is living with me from day one?
*What issues can I expect to face, will I have to sponser her or anything?
*If she has certain amount of money in the bank does this make anything easier with regards permits and me supporting her?

I've already spent an hour searching through threads but all seem either old or slightly differing circumstances.

So any corrections, answers or advice would be greatly received!

Thanks

Apologies for bumping an old thread, but I am looking for the same kind of information and was unable to find much else.

Me (EU passport holder living in Zürich for almost 3 years on a 5-year B permit) wants to bring over girlfriend (EU passport holder) to live with.
Since she has 0 knowledge of the German language, we're thinking of putting her on a intensive German course prior to her job search.
Apart from having an apartment she can live in, I also have enough funds to support her (if needed / required).

Anyone who can tell me how long she'll be allowed to stay? Will that be 3+3 months as well? TIA!

PaddyG 11.04.2011 15:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Harrie Nak (Post 1165915)
Apologies for bumping an old thread, but I am looking for the same kind of information and was unable to find much else.

Me (EU passport holder living in Zürich for almost 3 years on a 5-year B permit) wants to bring over girlfriend (EU passport holder) to live with.
Since she has 0 knowledge of the German language, we're thinking of putting her on a intensive German course prior to her job search.
Apart from having an apartment she can live in, I also have enough funds to support her (if needed / required).

Anyone who can tell me how long she'll be allowed to stay? Will that be 3+3 months as well? TIA!

I thought the rules had changed, so that an EU passport holder can come on a B permit and look for a job once they're here, no?

Upthehatters2008 11.04.2011 15:43

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CJ joined me, as my girlfriend, not intending to work and got the full unrestricted B-Permit last July. Valid for 2 years, renewable. My B, being valid for 5 years.
I have to stand surety for CHF25K....

11.04.2011 15:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PaddyG (Post 1165923)
I thought the rules had changed, so that an EU passport holder can come on a B permit and look for a job once they're here, no?

Yes. But only for 6 months.

11.04.2011 15:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Upthehatters2008 (Post 1165930)
CJ joined me, as my girlfriend, not intending to work and got the full unrestricted B-Permit last July. Valid for 2 years, renewable. My B, being valid for 5 years.
I have to stand surety for CHF25K....

Interesting, as this permit doesn't appear to exist in law - got any further info or distinguishing features - any pointers on the process? It would be of great interest to other EU partners of residents.


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