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Old 16.01.2009, 15:38
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B Permit - 2 questions

Hello,

First time user. New to this so please be gentle. Ive been browsing through this forum and my head is spinning. Here is my sitatuation. I am Australian and my long-term g/f is Swiss. I am in Swiss now and realise that getting a job through the sponsorship avenues is going to be pretty challenging - even if I am highly qualified and experienced.... anyway we are considering marriage, and the implications of this. I have two pretty simple questions:

1. After marriage what kind of B Permit do I get? The ch.ch website is some help on this but the sticky thread here further added to my confusion with the line, quote

RESIDENTS' B PERMIT (Aufenthaltbewilligung im Rahmen des Familiennachzugs)
LONG-TERM RESIDENCE PERMIT. NOT SUBJECT TO QUOTA
Permit delivered for family dependents.
Does not include work permission - this must be applied for separately (no quotas; indigenous priority does not apply anymore since 1.1.08)

As it feels to me like getting married defines me as a "dependent" or does that apply solely to children etc.

2. As she is Swiss and can work freely in the EU and England, can I then go to England and find work on my P Permit, after we are married? This is in case I cant find employment in Swiss no matter how hard I try... its a contingency plan.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 16.01.2009, 16:58
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Re: B Permit - 2 questions

The B permit you have quoted there is for dependents of a foreigner (including EU) who has a B permit themselves to work here. The B permit of a spouse of a Swiss resident would allow you to work here, but would only operate inside Switzerland, it has nothing to do with the EU. You would need to check the EU regulations for that. Welcome to the forum anyway. There are lots of threads with better information than I've given there somewhere, I'm sure you will find it easy, sorry I have no specific links to recommend.
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Old 16.01.2009, 18:04
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Re: B Permit - 2 questions

Ahhh I see. That makes perfect sence - the dependent B permit for someone to follow their spouse here, but not necessarily allow them to work here.

As for the second part - I assumed as much, that my B permit would only work in swiss, but its not entirely clear. Like you said i wil check with the EU laws... arrrggg

Thanks.

Anyone else got any comments on this?
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Old 16.01.2009, 18:19
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Re: B Permit - 2 questions

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Anyone else got any comments on this?
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... I am in Swiss now ...
Some members of this forum (not me) produce highly emotional reactions (think Anger Management) when the country's name (Switzerland) is not properly stated.

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Old 16.01.2009, 18:39
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I am Australian and my long-term g/f is Swiss. I am in Swiss now
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Some members of this forum (not me) produce highly emotional reactions (think Anger Management) when the country's name (Switzerland) is not properly stated.
Would Raaaabert refer to being down-under by saying: "I am in Australian now.."
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Old 16.01.2009, 18:53
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Re: B Permit - 2 questions

They can yell all they want... i sympathaise with your sentiments and you are not one such politically correct, but heh - I wasnt being 1) racist, 2) elitist 3) derogatory, 4) defamatory, merely 5) lazy. That should in no way reflect on my impression of the people or the country, if anything my own laziness (or is that Australianess, and the habit of shortening everything, saving energy when drinking beer in the sun). Anyway cheers for the heads up and I might just drop it into a conversation next time.. I like to get reactions.
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Old 16.01.2009, 18:55
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Re: B Permit - 2 questions

Would Raaaabert refer to being down-under by saying: "I am in Australian now.."

I personally wouldnt care.

In fact - I am in oz now or I am down-under now, highlights the particular informality I am referring to.
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Old 16.01.2009, 19:52
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Re: B Permit - 2 questions

Some people just do get a bee in their bonnet about using Swiss instead of Switzerland. It may sound silly but it looks bad even though there is no harm meant usually, it actually does sound derogatory. Maybe it's because in the languages of the country itself there are four choices, so why invent yet another one?
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Old 16.01.2009, 19:53
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Re: B Permit - 2 questions

From what I understand from my own B permit there are two kinds, residency and work permit. I have a residency permit which says not permitted to work on it. This does not stop me getting a job and applying for a work permit. It just means I have to inform them and get my status changed.

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Old 17.01.2009, 23:52
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Re: B Permit - 2 questions

Thanks Gal. Did you get your residency B permit by marriage to a person from Switzerland or other similar association?

None-the-less, is the process to change the status to alllow work a complicated one - ie is the prospective employer likely to balk at it? or is it relatively simple (note the relatively). At the moment I know a prospective employer would have to jump through too many hoops to employ me - on a sponsored work visa. Basically I am asking - as terrible as this sounds: will marrying my Swiss girlfriend make it easier for me to find work? Please - don't take this question the wrong way. It's not a marriage of convenience in that sense.
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Old 19.01.2009, 13:37
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Re: B Permit - 2 questions

Marrying would help you to get a permit, without a doubt. But what type I'm not sure. I know that as long as you aren't married changing a residency only permit to a working one would be up to your possible employer, as it now is.
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Old 19.01.2009, 17:06
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Re: B Permit - 2 questions

As far as I am aware (and I might be making this up) if you are married to someone who is an EU citizen (Swiss also) then you are treated the same. So if your wife has the right to live in the UK then you would be treated the same.
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Re: B Permit - 2 questions

Raaaabert wilcome One yes it easer to marry for the b permit Two is you have to fine the job an work it not her my point. How your germen if good know P to fine work but if not good luck. Dekrim
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Re: B Permit - 2 questions

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As far as I am aware (and I might be making this up) if you are married to someone who is an EU citizen (Swiss also) then you are treated the same. So if your wife has the right to live in the UK then you would be treated the same.
does anyone else know more about this or can someone confirm it. Ie my Swiss wife can work in France, UK etc can I now also (as an Australian married to her?
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Re: B Permit - 2 questions

raaaabert your 1 questions swiss is not eu but if her boss apply for permit your 2 question is a question it no p to marry her she swiss it give you the right live and wook in swiss that all.you fill out three papers an fine work in the swiss.
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Re: B Permit - 2 questions

in your 3rd post you referred to laziness. this thread is nearly six months on the go and you still haven't contacted an embassy of a country you would like to work in.
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Old 27.05.2009, 19:22
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Re: B Permit - 2 questions

your two-bob judgement/analysis is pretty pointless mate. keep it relevant or keep it to yourself
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yeah now that you mention it, i can see how contacting an embassy would be a waste of time.
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Old 29.05.2009, 15:02
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will marrying my Swiss girlfriend make it easier for me to find work?
It will make easier to get the permit/residence, it depends also how qualified in your field and good at German/French/Italian you are. You may also be able to find jobs that require people that speak English, but knowing the local language would open you more doors.
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Some members of this forum (not me) produce highly emotional reactions (think Anger Management) when the country's name (Switzerland) is not properly stated.

I have come across Legal sites here where it is just mentioned...."as per Swiss law"... "as per Swiss Foreign Law" etc etc.

Does this forum consider Swiss not to be Switzerland or not *properly stated*!
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