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Dependents permits?

We may be moving to Geneva and bringing our daughter who is 22 and her boyfriend 29 along. She is a nursing student and he is a carpenter/building supervisor here in America. We won't make the move without them so it's important I get answers to my questions. I know he has to have a work visa. How hard will that be to get? Will it be easy for him to find employment in his field? She wants to finish school there and maybe work a part time job. What type of visa would she need for that? As you can see I know nothing about this and it's confusing when reading about visas you can get as to which one is needed. We will be in Switzerland for two years, maybe three at the most. Please help as a decision has to be made immedialtely for the company. Thanks
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Old 07.04.2009, 13:05
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Welcome to the Forum. Many questions there to be answered.

Decide in haste, repent at leisure. I recommend you take your time with the visa info on the site, as most avenues have been covered.

Basically, your family will most likely not get a visa simply for being your family members, unless you can justify why they need to join you here. Ideally for everyone they come to pre-arranged jobs. Might work for your daughter but construction is pretty quiet these days for your son-in-law.

Good luck.
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Welcome to the Forum. Many questions there to be answered.

Decide in haste, repent at leisure. I recommend you take your time with the visa info on the site, as most avenues have been covered.

Basically, your family will most likely not get a visa simply for being your family members, unless you can justify why they need to join you here. Ideally for everyone they come to pre-arranged jobs. Might work for your daughter but construction is pretty quiet these days for your son-in-law.

Good luck.
That doesn't sound too promising for him. In the end he has to come to make this work for us.
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Re: Dependents permits?

In addition to Uncle Max's answer, your daughter will not be able to just
jump on an airplane and finish her nursing school here. That is something
that needs to be clearly researched and verified before expecting
anything!

If her French language skills are less than very good, then the possibility
of schooling, let alone a job in health care, is (in my opinion) very thin.

From my side as well, search through the forum. There are lots of answers
and posted questions similar to yours. Good luck!
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Timing wise, realistically, I don't see how you can sew this up definitively if you have to give a commitment to your company immediately. Assuming you are not Eu citizens your adult daughter will have to apply for her own visa based on her own standing, as will her boyfriend. In order to do that they will have to find a job/study course - not easy without language skills - and then apply for a visa. That will take some time.
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Timing wise, realistically, I don't see how you can sew this up definitively if you have to give a commitment to your company immediately. Assuming you are not Eu citizens your adult daughter will have to apply for her own visa based on her own standing, as will her boyfriend. In order to do that they will have to find a job/study course - not easy without language skills - and then apply for a visa. That will take some time.

The company takes care of our daughters visa. Children are taken care of until 25 with our company. The boyfriend is the one we are concerned with. We are on our own getting his visa.
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The company takes care of our daughters visa. Children are taken care of until 25 with our company. The boyfriend is the one we are concerned with. We are on our own getting his visa.
It is not a matter of knocking on a door and asking for a visa here. Easiest
is when he can provide a (valid) employment contract from a local employer.

Search the forum for lots of stories and experiences about getting
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The company takes care of our daughters visa. Children are taken care of until 25 with our company. The boyfriend is the one we are concerned with. We are on our own getting his visa.
get them married? (c;
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get them married? (c;

Ahh then she's off our health coverage which she needs till she is 25.
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Timing wise, realistically, I don't see how you can sew this up definitively if you have to give a commitment to your company immediately. Assuming you are not Eu citizens your adult daughter will have to apply for her own visa based on her own standing, as will her boyfriend. In order to do that they will have to find a job/study course - not easy without language skills - and then apply for a visa. That will take some time.

I agree, this is rather ridiculous timing. I guess he could go on a tourist visa and not do anything and we'd support him. He would lose his mind with boredom though.
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Re: Dependents permits?

He can only be here for 90 days as a tourist and then he will have to go home. Does he have a degree? My husband's company is always looking for degreed engineers, particularly mechanical, and language isn't an issue, so long as he speaks English. I agree that it's going to be hard for him to find a job in a company here that doesn't require one of the native languages.

I'm amazed that those two want to come at all. We couldn't convince any of ours to move with us, (26, 21, 19). They were like, uh, we'll come visit, OK?

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Ahh then she's off our health coverage which she needs till she is 25.
as someone who has been self sufficient since the age of 18 I have to ask:

are you being over protective or are they being over dependent?

[added after: i ask so to make you think, not to questioning your parenting skills. they will have to live without you one day, and i'm sure you could be doing something more interesting with your time? i know my parents are!]

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The company takes care of our daughters visa. Children are taken care of until 25 with our company. The boyfriend is the one we are concerned with. We are on our own getting his visa.
A word of warning, it does not really matter what the company does, as an adult, your daughter will still have to meet Swiss visa requirements in her own right, if she is to get a visa.

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The company takes care of our daughters visa. Children are taken care of until 25 with our company. The boyfriend is the one we are concerned with. We are on our own getting his visa.
I am familiar with this type of company policy in North America: children can be considered 'dependents' until the age of 25 so long as they are enrolled as full-time students and aren't married. They are covered by insurance benefits and the like. Unfortunately, for immigration purposes, company policy doesn't apply. Swiss laws governing familial regroupment visa have a cut-off age of 21 for dependent children. (Reference, sorry it's not available in English.) There are exceptions for children that are severely disabled, but as you are no longer your daughter's legal guardians, you don't have the right to bring her with you. She would have to get a visa on her own merit.
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Re: Dependents permits?

Plus, you will be under Swiss health insurance not US insurance, likely. Switzerland will likely require you to get Swiss insurance unless they review the US insurance and deem it covers all the basics in Switzerland. Plus having US medical insurance in Switzerland is not a great solution anyhow..Companies often provide expatriates a global health insurance but the rules will likely be different than for the US one you currently have.

I would recommend either alot more research or alot more soul searching.
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Swiss laws governing familial regroupment visa have a cut-off age of 21 for dependent children.
That's my understanding though just for clarity that's for children of non EU citizens. Just for the record that age limit doesn't apply to dependent children of EU citizens.
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