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Permit B and extended leave?

Hello,

I have read a large number of posts on this matter but I would like some clarification on my specific case please.

I currently have a B permit which expires in 2012. I am also British. I was made redundant at the begining of the year and I am now claiming unemployment benefit.

I would like to leave Switzerland to go and undertake a course in the UK (maximum 6 months). The unemployment office have said that I can claim on my return if I have a valid permit and a place of residence - which I should have.

My question is, what would happen if 6 months became 6.5 months - as I may want to travel after the course. As I understand, I can leave undeclared for 3 months maximum but a maximum of 6 months from date of exit? So if I returned for 2 weeks in the middle, would this reset the clock from the perspective of the permit?

And as I will not be earning during this time would the unemployment office have any issues - in terms of last employer etc etc??

Thank you for the feedback.
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My question is, what would happen if 6 months became 6.5 months - as I may want to travel after the course. As I understand, I can leave undeclared for 3 months maximum but a maximum of 6 months from date of exit? So if I returned for 2 weeks in the middle, would this reset the clock from the perspective of the permit?
you need a place of residence in CH. if you leave for 6 months you need to tell the permit people and they will 'hold' your permit. coming back for 2 weeks would probably have no effect.

why do you care what happens to your permit? you are british, if you find a job here you get a permit.
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Re: Permit B and extended leave?

Thanks. I have a place of residence as I have bought somewhere here. It is just that you are only entitled to the chomage if you have a permit - so if i leave and loose the permit no chomage on my return!

I guess there has to be a way to leave and comeback without too much trouble. But it is official thta you can leave for a maximum period of 3 months and do not have to declare this?
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Re: Permit B and extended leave?

Can you read the text on the back of your permit? The text summarises your rights and obligations as a permit holder. Exactly what type of permit B EU do you have (what does it say on the second page opposite the one with your photo?)

It states you can leave for a period of time without notifying the authorities for EU B I believe 6 months.

In addition you can leave for militiary service by telling them beforehand.

In addition depending on the kind of permit, you can leave for up to 2 years (or possibly 3 years) for EU by telling them in advance (up to the day you leave) and pay 65 Francs for 2 documents/attestations as follows:

1. confirms that you've de-registered for residence/tax purposes
2. confirms that you can return to the country within the 2/3 year period under a law of the 1930s with your current permit uninterrupted, you'll get this paper in a week, you may need to write a small note asking for it to your commune.
3. You get your permit back stamped as if you were leaving your address and need 2-3 years to decide which one you're going to come back to (even if the same).

Alternatively it's quite acceptable during unemployment period to leave for training/education. Discuss options with your Chomage office, again your permit will influence this.

Bear in mind that you'll need to have worked/contributed within a period of time of reclaiming after training/absence.

Another option dependig on your permit type is to sign off, de-register, do the training, pop back, re-register, sign on again, announce you're going to look for work in the UK, and ask how long you can do this for and qualify for benefits in CH based on your contibution history in CH/EEA/EU. Essentially you need to find the way you can do all you want while not disenfranchising your right to claim.

Isn't there an advice centre in Lausanne you can visit for unemployed people? All advice is conditional on your permit type, how long you've contributed here, beforehand in EU/EEA, how long you've claimed already amongst other factors. Please therefore clarify the details more exactly for more reliable feedback.

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Thanks. I have a place of residence as I have bought somewhere here. It is just that you are only entitled to the chomage if you have a permit - so if i leave and loose the permit no chomage on my return!

I guess there has to be a way to leave and comeback without too much trouble. But it is official thta you can leave for a maximum period of 3 months and do not have to declare this?
do you live in the property you own? then you will always have a permit, unless you make it your secondary residence!

if you live in your property then i would not tell the permit people anything. go to the UK for a few weeks, come back for a weekend now and again just to make sure if you really want to. as long as you are not changing your residency you have nothing really to tell them in this situation. explaining to the RAV why you didn't claim for 6 months might be an issue, but you seem to be on top of that. cert of attendance at the course in UK and or the qualification received will improve that exlanation.

the 3 months thing sounds familiar, but i think you are over complicating things.
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