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Old 28.06.2010, 19:39
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Re: All My Experience - Facilitated Naturalization

Yes, if you are over 32 (I am) with a Swiss mother or father, but no Swiss citizenship (you weren't registered by your parents with the canton), you have to prove that you have close ties to Switzerland and explain why you want citizenship.

The laws have changed several times over the last many years regarding this, but the above is my understanding of how it stands at the moment. It's quite a dance I will have to do to receive what was at birth my right.
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Hello folks,

I've read through the few posts on naturalization, but still have a couple questions.

I'm in Kanton Zürich, applied for facilitated naturalization in March, got letter from Bern telling me it'll take a whole life time for the process (ha ha), but in May I'm contacted by the Kanton with the common yellowy-orange form about my schooling and taxes, and recently I've been visited by the local police. Mine seems to be a pretty straight forward case.

Some of you are saying that your references were contacted and then had to write a ref letter -does anyone know if this is still accurate? Just wondering.

As of yet, no one's contacted me about an interview or language test. Do they call you out of the blue for a phone interview in Zurich?

Then, when it comes to the communal level (local Gemeinde) did any of you have your name/info made public? In the years I've been here, I've sometimes seen (in the local paper) a public call for the community to make objections (i.e. Mrs. Smith, born in Tokyo, 1950, now living Tälstrasse 23 Zürich is applying for citizenship. Any objection can be brought forward until June 2nd...).

Curious, curious system, isn't?

Thanks in advance for the feedback.
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I am the only one in this forum saying references were contacted...
Here is how it goes...
One of a known person to me also applied in the same time frame as when I applied.
I got the letter on 15th of June stating that it's approved & I have to wait for one month which is legal period for anyone to raise objection, however my friend who has applied from Canton Zurich also had the cops visited in the same time frame as quoted by you, but till date she didn't hear anything. Also none of her references were contacted.
It's my assumption (ASSUMPTION) that it really depends on which Canton & Geminde you are applying from, as I can't make out any other conclusion as of why she has not received any further communication?

I would say just sit tight as the guys in Berne have lot of work & nothing else, it's just the matter of time & nothing else. Well, I know how frustrating it's to wait for anything like this, but trust me the system here really works & for sure you will get it.

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Old 18.08.2010, 14:03
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Re: All My Experience - Facilitated Naturalization

Update to my above info in case someone's going through the process too...

Kanton asked me to send from my Gemeinde: Tax info (saffron-yellow 1-page form) & Betreibungs (the local office printed out for me a 'you've got no outstanding debts/financial cases against you letter).

About 6 weeks after that I got a white form from the Gemeinde asking me to restate applicant's name, spouse & kids, and to sign giving them permission to contact local authorities (e.g. police, courts) for my records if any.

That brings this application to 6 months so far in process.
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Re: All My Experience - Facilitated Naturalization

Thanks for the update havanah!

I am wondering if anyone has gone or is going through this process in canton Luzern? We are about 7 months in and haven't heard a word from anyone since the intial letter acknowledging that the application had been received. I just know that every canton is different as far as processing times go...
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Re: All My Experience - Facilitated Naturalization

I gave in my application last week and received ther confirmation letter from the OCP saying that they had received the documents and after a short investigation would be forwarding the documents to Berne.

Does anybody know how long it will take from then on? they've told me to expect 1-2 years depending on workload and supposedly, there were quite a few who applied in Geneva.
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Old 20.08.2010, 15:47
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Re: All My Experience - Facilitated Naturalization

1 - 2 years sounds about right - I suppose that anyway they know best about how long it will take
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Re: All My Experience - Facilitated Naturalization

I've no idea what the time wait is in LU or GE. I did notice though that my letters from ZH showed that the Migrationsamt has 6 employees at the office of applicants, with each assigned a different section of applicants by surname (A-F, G-K and so on) --which I don't want to believe (I mean no wonder it would take up to 2 years!). But I also got the initial letter saying it would take that long and I got a surprisingly quick response despite.

Having said all that, it seems the Migrationsamt is restructuring itself now with the Chef resigning. Here's a link to today's news:

http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/zuerich/...story/22669777

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Just to share my recent experience about the system, as a non-EU citizen has now a Swiss passport as well as a Swiss ID card.

I applied the facilitated naturalization (I qualified for this since I've been married to a Swiss for at least 3 years and have been in Switzerland for a total of 5 years, with the last 12 months actually in Switzerland) to Bern (Federal Office for Migration FOM) at the end of July 2008. Received a letter in September indicating that my application was accepted and it may take about 12 to 24 months depends on the local work loads (cantonal/communal). Then I received an invitation letter to an interview in the local police station (in fact they were ready to do it on the phone, but I preferred to visit them). It was as short as 15 minutes friendly talk mostly on what I have been doing since I moved to CH, my wife’s and my personal info (such as birthdates, places, home and work address…). It was in November. Then about 2 months after, at the end of December, I received a letter asking my wife and me to sign that we have a true marriage and not planning to separate soon. They also requested a copy our marriage certificate and my declaration about no criminal history. 1 month after I sent the requested document, in February, I received a letter from Bern indicting that they approved my naturalization and asked me to pay 750 CHF, however, I have to wait for about 2 months to receive the final decision (it is a legal period in case of any opposition could raised by the origin canton or commune). In fact, I receive the final approval confirmation letter from Bern in the 5th week… The entire procedure took about 10 months for me.

The final confirmation letter is enough to apply for the passport (takes about 4 days to get it) or the ID (takes about 3 weeks), if you live in the same canton where you are registered (become a Swiss). If you live in a different canton than where you are registered (your Swiss wife/husband origin), you need to have an updated family carnet (where your new Swiss nationality is shown) for the passport/ID application.

I am ready to answer if you have any question. I wish you all whom are in this process…

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Hello Kraft,
I see this post is very old but I hope you or others can still help me, in may 2017 will be finish my third year of my marriage (with Swiss) and last year we were in Switzerland without interruption, I was in Switzerland from September 2010 until December 2013 with permit B as student.
after ending my study and expiring my permission I went back to my country and again entered in Switzerland on first of May 2015 with new permission because of my marriage visa (there is 5 and half month interruption between my exiting from Switzerland and reentering for my marriage )
my question is: can I apply for facilitated naturalization or not?
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Hello Kraft,
I see this post is very old but I hope you or others can still help me, in may 2017 will be finish my third year of my marriage (with Swiss) and last year we were in Switzerland without interruption, I was in Switzerland from September 2010 until December 2013 with permit B as student.
after ending my study and expiring my permission I went back to my country and again entered in Switzerland on first of May 2015 with new permission because of my marriage visa (there is 5 and half month interruption between my exiting from Switzerland and reentering for my marriage )
my question is: can I apply for facilitated naturalization or not?
I think you should be able to. My 5 years in Switzerland weren't continuous and it was no problem.... however, I wasn't on a student permit and I know sometimes these are treated differently, maybe someone else knows if student permit years count? I would think they would for facilitated.
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Hello Kraft,
I see this post is very old but I hope you or others can still help me, in may 2017 will be finish my third year of my marriage (with Swiss) and last year we were in Switzerland without interruption, I was in Switzerland from September 2010 until December 2013 with permit B as student.
after ending my study and expiring my permission I went back to my country and again entered in Switzerland on first of May 2015 with new permission because of my marriage visa (there is 5 and half month interruption between my exiting from Switzerland and reentering for my marriage )
my question is: can I apply for facilitated naturalization or not?
According to your profile you are Swiss. What more would you like to become?
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According to your profile you are Swiss. What more would you like to become?
Darn, you beat me to it
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I think you should be able to. My 5 years in Switzerland weren't continuous and it was no problem.... however, I wasn't on a student permit and I know sometimes these are treated differently, maybe someone else knows if student permit years count? I would think they would for facilitated.
Thank you for your answer, do you know where can I find application form? should I ask directly where I renew my permit card? (foreign-office)

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Thank you for your answer, do you know where can I find application form? should I ask directly where I renew my permit card? (foreign-office)
You can get the form the either from the naturalisation office in Bellinzona or at the chancellery of your commune of residence.

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Re: All My Experience - Facilitated Naturalization

At the risk of being called an idiot

Is there a separate list of docs required to be submitted for facilitated naturalization or not?

Here http://www.gaz.zh.ch/internet/justiz...downloads.html does not seem to be any

More specifically, did anyone have to submit a birth certificate. The list says no, but...
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At the risk of being called an idiot

Is there a separate list of docs required to be submitted for facilitated naturalization or not?

Here http://www.gaz.zh.ch/internet/justiz...downloads.html does not seem to be any

More specifically, did anyone have to submit a birth certificate. The list says no, but...
I had to send a Wohnsitzzeugnisse for every gemeinde I had lived in and a new copy of our Familienausweis. That was it, apart from a photocopy of permit and passport I think.
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Re: All My Experience - Facilitated Naturalization

Would very much appreciate answers to the following:

1) On page two of the form there is a tiny section Aufenthalte im Ausland. What exactly should I write there, I mean, which time period is being referred to? Which type of Aufenthalt?

2) At which stage will the invoice be sent?

Many thanks!
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Would very much appreciate answers to the following:

1) On page two of the form there is a tiny section Aufenthalte im Ausland. What exactly should I write there, I mean, which time period is being referred to? Which type of Aufenthalt?

2) At which stage will the invoice be sent?

Many thanks!
I'll look at my paperwork tonight to be sure, but I think we only entered the big blocks of where I'd lived outside of Switzerland. Not vacations.

The invoice comes when the final approval is given, but before the period in which folks can contest. In my case, that was 7 months after the application process started. I got a notice in the Post to pick up a registered letter and to bring X amount to pay for it. As we weren't expecting any parcels with that kind of money attached and it said "letter" we knew it was for the naturalization process.

Sorry, not much help right now without my documents in front of me, but didn't want you to feel ignored.
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Very much appreciated, 3Wishes!
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Would very much appreciate answers to the following:

1) On page two of the form there is a tiny section Aufenthalte im Ausland. What exactly should I write there, I mean, which time period is being referred to? Which type of Aufenthalt?

2) At which stage will the invoice be sent?

Many thanks!
About question 2, in my case the postman rang our bell, said he had a registered letter and asked for a big chunk of change.
I called my wife and said "it's for you!"
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