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[Q&A] Schengen Visa - all you need to know

Hi all Can anybody tell me where can i find the requirements for Schengen Visa for a Non EU citizen holding L permit in Switzerland
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Re: Requirments for schengen visa for non EU citizen holding an L permit

did u found the answers...if yes please respond.
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Re: Requirments for schengen visa for non EU citizen holding an L permit

Hi,

Its basically the same as with a non-EU citizen with B-permit, except that some embassies do not give multiple entry visas to L permit holders. I think it would be better if you call the particular embassy you would like to obtain the Schengen visa from and enquire about the documents needed for a L-permit holder.

I am attaching a link where you can find the phone numbers for most of the foreign embassies in Switzerland. Good luck!

http://www.about.ch/various/embassies/
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Schengen Visa for France but go to Germany ?

Is this possible for a Schengen visa obtained for France but then go to Germany directly ?
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Re: Schengen Visa for France but go to Germany ?

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Is this possible for a Schengen visa obtained for France but then go to Germany directly ?
Although this has nothing to do with Switzerland... A Schengen visa is not for a specific country but for the Schengen countries ie those signed up to it and is valid for all. I think you are referring to the issuing country which is not really that relevant...
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Although this has nothing to do with Switzerland... A Schengen visa is not for a specific country but for the Schengen countries ie those signed up to it and is valid for all. I think you are referring to the issuing country which is not really that relevant...
Hi, it's just because when I read about that rules from the Embassy website. They always say go to the Embassy of your main destination.
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Re: Schengen Visa for France but go to Germany ?

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Is this possible for a Schengen visa obtained for France but then go to Germany directly ?
Schengen country of issue has to be your first port of call, so no, you cannot go to Germany directly. You have to cross the border into France, and then from there into Germany, but from my experience nobody ever checks for these things (assuming you're driving?) much anymore.
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Old 29.03.2007, 07:19
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Re: Schengen Visa for France but go to Germany ?

You absolutely must go to the country of your visa first and be stamped there with entry. After that, you can go anywhere else within the Schengen region.
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You absolutely must go to the country of your visa first and be stamped there with entry. After that, you can go anywhere else within the Schengen region.
That is most interesting - can you tell me which part of the Schengen rules specify that?

To the best of my knowledge you must have the visa issued either by the country of entry into the Schengen region or if this is not the place where you intend to spend most of your time, then the country where you will be staying. BUT you MUST have it stamped as soon as you enter any Schengen country as it is from this point that your 90 days start. So if you happen to land in Germany but are spending most of your time in France then there is a requirement to stamp first in Germany.


I never read that you must have it stamped by the issuing country first but could be wrong.
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Re: Requirments for schengen visa for non EU citizen holding an L permit

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did u found the answers...if yes please respond.
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hello Vinay, I did not get the answer whether i will get a schengen visa or not. I am a Indian and have a L permit and will i get an Schengen visa
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I never read that you must have it stamped by the issuing country first but could be wrong.
Me neither. I have applied for than 8 times schengen visa, most of them are from Germany since it s easy and fast to get comparing with other schengen countries. And i use it for travelling to italy or france etc, never had the need to cross the german border.
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Re: Schengen Visa for France but go to Germany ?

actually i agree with evilshell. I had to apply for a shengen visa for 6 years and I was told by the issuing embassy that I have to enter the issuing country first....
suggestion...it is better to ask than to have problems later.
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Re: Requirments for schengen visa for non EU citizen holding an L permit

i think that would be tricky...since a L permit is a temporary permit...I don't know if the rules are the same for B permits...
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actually i agree with evilshell. I had to apply for a shengen visa for 6 years and I was told by the issuing embassy that I have to enter the issuing country first....
suggestion...it is better to ask than to have problems later.
Yes that is just my point. The issuing embassy can tell you that you must dye your hair green but where is it in the Schengen agreement - I further fail to see the logic of having two(3 is we count an A) situations described where one is the first country of entry and the second is the country in which you will be staying. The first is then acting as a transit country and this is covered with a Schengen B and I assume we are talking here of a Schengen C visa.

Where a problem might arise although I do not see how is that although there is no control within the Schengen area there is control at the point of Schengen entry.
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i think that would be tricky...since a L permit is a temporary permit...I don't know if the rules are the same for B permits...
The German Embassy told me that if you are on a L or B permit and living in Switzerland less than 6 months, the chance for rejection is very very high.
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Old 29.03.2007, 21:01
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The German Embassy told me that if you are on a L or B permit and living in Switzerland less than 6 months, the chance for rejection is very very high.
If you just need it for holidays and are not in hurry just wait until 2008 starts - Switzerland will enter the Schengen space by midnight from 31st Dec 2007 to 1st Jan 2008. Then I think a valid visa for Switzerland will be enough to enter other countries of Schengen space.
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If you just need it for holidays and are not in hurry just wait until 2008 starts - Switzerland will enter the Schengen space by midnight from 31st Dec 2007 to 1st Jan 2008. Then I think a valid visa for Switzerland will be enough to enter other countries of Schengen space.
Last March when I was on Schengen resident permit and visited Switzerland, my friend told me Switzerland would enter Schenge state end of 2006. And now I'm here, trapping inside Switzerland in 2007

I really want to wait for that day to come but the work is unfortunately not waiting for me. Frankly I hate the visa application procedure of the German Embassy. Such a pain in the *ss.
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Schengen country of issue has to be your first port of call, so no, you cannot go to Germany directly. You have to cross the border into France, and then from there into Germany, but from my experience nobody ever checks for these things (assuming you're driving?) much anymore.
I have a non-EU passport and apply for Schengen visa regularly - I've never been asked/told that I have to enter the issuing Schengen country first.

The last time I had applied via the Spanish embassy - and drove to UK via France - first port of entry was France - where I was stopped and the passport checked - no problem whatsoever.

@pradeep - I have an Indian passport and initially had an L permit - Yes, you can apply for a Schengen visa and get it - the important think is the validity of your L-permit - they only issue a visa (usually 90 days) which is valid within the L-permit validity.

Best thing would be to call the embassy for information - that way they can also tell you what documents you need to take along and you can save yourself a trip.
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Re: [Q&A] Schengen Visa - all you need to know

Definitive answer from the relevant embassies:
No, you do not have to enter the issuing country first. In fact the requirements clearly state that you must apply at the consulate/ embassy of the country of your main destination, irrespective of the other Schengen States that you may enter fleetingly.

So let's say your main destination (within the next 3 months for business/ pleasure whatever) is Greece, but after the visa is issued you stray across the Lichtenstein/ Austria Border and then decide to visit Rome and finally visit Greece after 3 weeks, it is not an issue. The only issue is that the country that issues your visa must be convinced that you plan to visit that country (something to do with workload).

I believe that the Schengen countries should clarify this workload thingy within themselves. Because clearly, all embassies want to tell you to go to another one. Every embassy gives you a different version of the "main destination" requirement.

Isn't it just better for the German/ Austrian/ French/ Italian (bordering) embassies to give you a visa for the validity of your permit/ work contract, so that you go there and spend money every weekend or so? And also they can reduce their workload by giving longer-term visas....
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Schengen country of issue has to be your first port of call, so no, you cannot go to Germany directly. You have to cross the border into France, and then from there into Germany, but from my experience nobody ever checks for these things (assuming you're driving?) much anymore.
I stand under correction: (well, sort of)"
If you intend to visit several Schengen countries, you must apply for a visa at the Embassy or Consulate of the country which is your main destination.
If you intend to visit several Schengen countries but do not have a main destination, you should apply for a visa at the Embassy or Consulate of the country which is your first point of entry."

taken from http://www.eurovisa.info/WhereApply.htm
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