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oktatabyebye 16.09.2009 21:25

Can I travel to Schengen countries ?
 
here is a situation:

I came to Switzerland in the last week of July and applied for residence permit in the first week of August. All my colleagues who applied around the same time received their permits. I am a doctoral student at EPFL. Ideally I also should have got the permit but somehow never recieved it till now.
Now I need to travel to germany for a 3-days course. My Suisse visa was stamped as Type D, single entry, valid for Suisse. Being a single entry visa, I was sure that I cannot use this visa to travel to schengen countries. So I visited service de la population and got a multiple entry visa after paying 93 CHF.

My question is: Can I travel to schengen countries now? The new visa reads as Type D, multiple entry, valid for suisse and 1 month validity.

Please help as I have to book tickets and register for this course ASAP.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Cheers,
M

Patxi 16.09.2009 21:28

Re: can I travel to Schengen contries
 
What passport do you have?

Scott 16.09.2009 21:28

Re: can I travel to Schengen contries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oktatabyebye (Post 551892)
here is a situation:

I came to Switzerland in the last week of July and applied for residence permit in the first week of August. All my colleagues who applied around the same time received their permits. I am a doctoral student at EPFL. Ideally I also should have got the permit but somehow never recieved it till now.
Now I need to travel to germany for a 3-days course. My Suisse visa was stamped as Type D, single entry, valid for Suisse. Being a single entry visa, I was sure that I cannot use this visa to travel to schengen countries. So I visited service de la population and got a multiple entry visa after paying 93 CHF.

My question is: Can I travel to schengen countries now? The new visa reads as Type D, multiple entry, valid for suisse and 1 month validity.

Please help as I have to book tickets and register for this course ASAP.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Cheers,
M

Silly question: your location states USA, you claim to be in
Switzerland. Would you mind updating your profile?

Another: what nationality are you?

Jester 16.09.2009 23:49

Re: can I travel to Schengen contries
 
Well, it isn't particularly clear, but I think your Type D visa only means that you would be able to travel through Schengen territories in transit to and from the issuing country (Switzerland in this case) and that once in Switzerland you should have obtained a short-term residence permit. With said residence permit you would then be able to travel to Schengen territory countries without further Visa requirements.

Check here for more details

From the above linked site:

Quote:

4. Long stay national visa for the purpose of taking up office

These are category D visas, which are valid solely for Swiss territory.
As the issuance of this type of visa remains the sole responsibility of the Swiss authorities, the procedures in this area remain the same. For further information on this subject, please contact the Swiss representation responsible for the applicant's place of residence.

Persons requiring to stay in Switzerland for more than three months who may need to enter other Schengen area countries before receiving their Swiss residence permit may request a national visa of equivalent value together with the short stay visa (visa type D + C). This type of visa is subject to the same procedures as short stay visas.
Quote:

2. Short stay visa (for a period of less than three months)

The short stay visas are as follows:
A: airport transit visa
B: transit visa for the Schengen area (overland)
C: short stay visa (maximum of three months for a period of six months)
that may be issued for one or several entries.

The time needed for a visa request to be processed may vary from case to case. It is therefore strongly recommended to take the necessary steps well in advance (but at the earliest three months before the departure date) so that the visa can be issued in the time required.

Interns, consultants, experts, etc. who have a contract with an organisation with which Switzerland has concluded a headquarters agreement or who are mandated by a government to carry out duties within a diplomatic or consular representation for a period of less than three months will also receive a short stay visa valid for the entire Schengen area.

When exceptional or urgent circumstances make it necessary, particularly in connection with Switzerland's international obligations or if Switzerland has issued an official invitation, the representation may, exceptionally, issue visas of limited territorial validity (LTV) in accordance with the Schengen Acquis. These visas permit the holder only to enter and to stay on Swiss territory. They do not permit the holder to visit another state (in the case of Geneva, for example, the neighbouring country of France). Moreover the holder of an LTV visa must enter and depart via Switzerland, without transiting by another member state of the Schengen area.
Disclaimer: Bolding and underlining in the above quoted sections are mine. I am no expert on Visas or Schengen/Switzerland travel requirements.

oktatabyebye 17.09.2009 09:41

Re: can I travel to Schengen contries
 
I am Indian national. So does it mean I have to obtain a German visa to enter Germany? I have to visit Germany only for 3 days.

temiatwork 17.09.2009 09:59

Re: can I travel to Schengen contries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oktatabyebye (Post 552143)
I am Indian national. So does it mean I have to obtain a German visa to enter Germany? I have to visit Germany only for 3 days.

Sir, moderators of EF have already advised you to update your profile. You're an INDIAn national located in the USA and works for EPFL here in SUISSE ?

I believe you'll get more help if you start doing it.

NoniJuize 17.09.2009 11:56

Re: can I travel to Schengen contries
 
I also have a D visa. But from my understanding D visa is only within Switzerland and not to other Shengen countries. At least that was what I was told by the police and what is stated on the visa. I am not sure about multi entry, but I dont think you can travel to other countries with that. Best to check with the canton office in your area.

Angela-74 17.09.2009 12:02

Re: can I travel to Schengen contries
 
You have to wait until you get the residence permit period. And as people have been saying if you have a D permit maybe you are not allowed to go into other Schengen states.
But the D permit on the passport is just for entry so I would wait.

sid7121 17.09.2009 23:20

Re: can I travel to Schengen contries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoniJuize (Post 552313)
I also have a D visa. But from my understanding D visa is only within Switzerland and not to other Shengen countries. At least that was what I was told by the police and what is stated on the visa. I am not sure about multi entry, but I dont think you can travel to other countries with that. Best to check with the canton office in your area.

If you have the word Vaut comme titre de séjour written on your visa and its MULT when its recognised as a schengen visa.

http://www.eda.admin.ch/eda/en/home/...is/manvi2.html

(4)The following residence permits in particular are recognised: legitimation card of the FDFA (all categories), permits B, C, L – and the national category D which states "Vaut comme titre de séjour – valid as residence authorization"..

oktatabyebye 18.10.2009 12:02

Re: can I travel to Schengen contries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sid7121 (Post 552967)
If you have the word Vaut comme titre de séjour written on your visa and its MULT when its recognised as a schengen visa.

http://www.eda.admin.ch/eda/en/home/...is/manvi2.html

(4)The following residence permits in particular are recognised: legitimation card of the FDFA (all categories), permits B, C, L – and the national category D which states c..

Thank you sid. You are right! I did travel on this visa which had the statement you quoted mentioned on it :D. Thank you all for your replies. :msngrin:

vasilisgr325 19.10.2009 19:01

Re: Can I travel to Schengen countries ?
 
Along the same lines, I am a US citizen who just arrived in Switzerland. My flight connected in Copenhagen, where I went through the passport control, then into Geneva, but my visa (type D) was never checked, just the normal passport stamping in Copenhagen. My visa says "Suisse+ 1 transit Schengen" is valid from oct-dec, with duration of stay "XXX", and remarks: Motif Professionnel. I went to controle des habitants, filled out the paperwork and they told me it might take up to a month (maybe longer) to get my work permit. I have an address here now and everything, what I am wondering is if I can leave Switzerland to go to another country (Schengen? non Schengen but in Europe? or USA?) for a few days (does duration matter as long as it is <3 months) by plane or by train? Hopefully someone who has been through this similar situation can help me. I figure that I am a US citizen so in case I fly anywhere, why should it matter? (sorry but i'm new to these things...someone said you could apply for multiple entries as well? Maybe this will help?) Any help is much appreciated!


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