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Old 30.09.2009, 18:10
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Re: Crossing border on B-permit

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Where does it say that residence permits are accepted as travel documents?
Link below says: List of Swiss resident permits allowing entry into the Schengen area without a visa
http://www.bfm.admin.ch/etc/medialib...-liste3b-e.pdf
and below link says more on the topic:
This EU Convention allows the free movement of European citizens across national borders without the need for visas or passport checks.

Citizens of Schengen countries can cross the internal borders of EU member states without passport checks.

http://www.justlanded.com/english/Au...-Schengen-Area
http://www.civitas.org.uk/eufacts/FSEXR/EX2.htm

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Old 30.09.2009, 18:19
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Re: Crossing border on B-permit

I think if you get stopped they might asl for a passport but if you dont have it they will just tell you that you need to carry it when you cross the border (assuming you have your permit). It happened to me once in a bus from france at 4 am , different country though but no problems.
Here I have never been checked so far...good luck!
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Old 30.09.2009, 18:28
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Link below says: List of Swiss resident permits allowing entry into the Schengen area without a visa
http://www.bfm.admin.ch/etc/medialib...-liste3b-e.pdf
I already pointed out that this link says that you ALSO have to have a valid recognized travel document. Therefore, a residence permit is NOT a valid travel document. This link only tells us what kind of permit one must have so the holder, who otherwise should have a visa to travel to Schengen countries could travel there without a visa. So it is not even relevant in this case. The OP does not need a visa to go to France and was not asking about that.


yes there are no systematic passport checks on the border, but there are random ones and you must be able to prove your identity. So basically the question here would be not what kind of documents are needed for 3rd country citizens to travel without visa, but if France recognizes Swiss residency permits as valid identification documents.

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Re: Crossing border on B-permit

hi all

this is pretty old topic, but I have a similar problem. Wanna travel with my 4 months old kid from switzerland to another schengen country as EU citizens. He has no passport yet, thanks to the bureaucracy in our 'nice' country.. he has the valid swiss permit though, thanks to the quick and reliable swiss authorities. the question is if we can travel without the passport with the B permit.

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Re: Crossing border on B-permit

If overland ( car, bus, train ), no problems.
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Re: Crossing border on B-permit

thanks for the quick reply. the problem is that we fly... i try to call the airport and ask
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Re: Crossing border on B-permit

Been there gotten the T shirt.
Officially, you can cross Schengan borders with the B Permit alone. At border crossing (road) and via rail, the officials simply check and ask for the B Permit alone. I too kept a copy of my passport ... just incase, but was never questioned. In addition to the B Permit, I also tend to have my Swiss Driver's license as well. A combination of which should suffice even to the most ardent sqauds of border police :-)


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Re: Crossing border on B-permit

hey all
if anyone having this problem again: within Schengen they don't check ANYTHING. i went to the airport and talked to the boarding supervisor a few days before our trip, he said we don't need ANY papers within Schengen, other than the plane ticket and the boarding pass (checked in online). we flew with the kid without any problems zürich-vienna-zürich in August ..and received the little one's passport last week, after more than 2 months...
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