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Urgent Help on extension of duration of stay trourist visa

Hello All,

First of all apologies for overlooking the thread if this issues is already answered somewhere in this forum.
I am currently in difficult situation and not sure what to do and whom to contact on this issue so I
would appreciate if someone here on this forum can help me out

I recently invited my father and sister here on tourist visa for which following is the details printed on visa.

They entered switzerland on 24th october 2009
Valid for : schenghen countries
From 20.10.2009 to 19.01.10
Type : C Number of entries : Multi
Duration of stay : 15 Days

Unfortunately My sister got ill and had to be hospitalised
She was discharged from hospital on 4th Nov 2009 and currently my father is also not well and is under medical treatment.
My question here is
- what would heppend if they stay beyond 15 days
- Is there any authorities whom I can get in touch with and with whom I can sort this out
- Do I need to extend the travel insurance policy to get this approval from authorities
Would appreciate any input on the issue as I don't have any information how should I sort this out.
Thanks in advance for your help
IG
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Old 05.11.2009, 12:49
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Hello All,

First of all apologies for overlooking the thread if this issues is already answered somewhere in this forum.
I am currently in difficult situation and not sure what to do and whom to contact on this issue so I
would appreciate if someone here on this forum can help me out

I recently invited my father and sister here on tourist visa for which following is the details printed on visa.

They entered switzerland on 24th october 2009
Valid for : schenghen countries
From 20.10.2009 to 19.01.10
Type : C Number of entries : Multi
Duration of stay : 15 Days

Unfortunately My sister got ill and had to be hospitalised
She was discharged from hospital on 4th Nov 2009 and currently my father is also not well and is under medical treatment.
My question here is
- what would heppend if they stay beyond 15 days
- Is there any authorities whom I can get in touch with and with whom I can sort this out
- Do I need to extend the travel insurance policy to get this approval from authorities
Would appreciate any input on the issue as I don't have any information how should I sort this out.
Thanks in advance for your help
IG
1) If they stay beyond the duration of stay, then they stay is illegal
2) Contact your local kriesburo and immigration office immediately for extending the duration because of unforseen emergency
3) Not sure about this... Most proably don't have to if they are already hospitalized
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Re: Urgent Help on extension of duration of stay trourist visa

If your family are here as tourists, and are not working, then I think you can relax. I mean, if they plan on staying for another week or so. Normally I would think if one visited, anywhere, with a plane ticket, when that ticket has it's return date, you go. But if of course they want to visit a bit longer, and you are paying to extend the date, then well...I wouldn't worry. I am assuming your family are not the wild and crazy type, and therefore if they are going to be staying out of the way of police controls, they'll be ok. Tourist visas are set up, to differentiate between those visiting and those looking for a way into a country(student visas cover that loop-hole just fine). At the worst, they could be deported. But you will NEVER find a cop at your house following up on the tourist visa date, except if possibly they try to live here.

I have "over-extended" my tourist visas in the past(not in Switzerland-I should note), in some instances by over a year, and as long as you are a law abiding, respectful of the culture, person, not trying to work, they won't have any problem if they are just staying another week or two. It's technically "illegal" but, not as "illegal" as stealing a car. Like the gravity of it.
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I have "over-extended" my tourist visas in the past(not in Switzerland-I should note), in some instances by over a year, and as long as you are a law abiding, respectful of the culture, person, not trying to work, they won't have any problem if they are just staying another week or two. It's technically "illegal" but, not as "illegal" as stealing a car. Like the gravity of it.
But won't this become a problem for the sponsor when he tries to bring some one else in future to EU countries?
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If your family are here as tourists, and are not working, then I think you can relax.
You know, consequences might be the word you are looking for. They all might look like lazy sods, but they do their homework. If you just let it slide, chances are you will be refused future visas - then as mentioned before comes the well known box that you have to tick if you want to travel; "have you ever been refused a Visa and why", that's when you will realise it wasn't such a bright idea.

If there are special circumstances, contact the authorities and talk to them. I am sure they will see sense in this case, but not if you just decide to ignore the laws of the land.
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Re: Urgent Help on extension of duration of stay trourist visa

the fact that there has been an emergency w/ documented paperwork will help you. likely you won't be questioned until your family members leave switzerland to return home. But contacting the kriesburo is a good idea just so the authorities know. When its time for them to leave, they will go through border control at the airport (in switzerland) and the officer may ask them why they overstayed (or he/she may overlook it and not say anything). At which point they can show the hospital receipts. The officer would have the power to fine your family (one Canadian couple got fined 600 chf for overstaying by 1 or 2 months) with a warning not to overstay next time. In worst case scenario i've heard of people getting banned but this does not seem likely with your situation.

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Re: Urgent Help on extension of duration of stay trourist visa

"But won't this become a problem for the sponsor when he tries to bring some one else in future to EU countries?"
I think not. The visa is issued to the person to asked for it. She/father asked for it in the country they were from, it looks like India. There is no sponsoring when it comes to a tourist visa. There isn't. I have never heard of this. That can only apply to worker, resident, or even student visas. The sponsor in the case of the tourist visa is either the home or Switzerland nation. If some one visits me, I don't have to fill out any paperwork for them to do so. A million people can. I can be the Eiffel Tower of the SZ, but that desn't make me responsible for a single soul.
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"You know, consequences might be the word you are looking for. They all might look like lazy sods, but they do their homework. If you just let it slide, chances are you will be refused future visas - then as mentioned before comes the well known box that you have to tick if you want to travel; "have you ever been refused a Visa and why", that's when you will realise it wasn't such a bright idea."

I don't think the Swiss are lazy at all. I think they are probably the most adiment of all the european countries. A tourist visa is nothing to be redeemed. When he/she crosses the border on the return, they are not swiped at the border by the Swiss side to check their passport. They are done for the country they are entering/returning to. Where, electronically does this happen for Swiss documentation? I have never spent my time in a country I needed to ask for a visa to, gone to their local border office/etc and told them I was leaving, as it is not part of the process. So if one over extended their time here, and does not get controlled by police action, where does the Swiss goverment know if they were here for less or more then their required maximum stay?
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