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Birth certificates and permits for newborns?

Hi,

My wife and I have recently been lucky enough to celebrate the birth of our first child. I am now however going through the process of registering him both here and in Australia.

I went through the process of registering at the hospital and thought everything was sorted. Great, nice and easy.

Not long after I received what I thought was a birth certificate.

I also received around the same time however a letter from the Zivilstandsamt requesting more documents, all of which should be under 6 months old.

My question is then, is what I received an actual birth certificate. It is in 5 different languages and is titled "extract from the record of birth". It looks just like one to me... And if I already have a birth certificate is there any reason I need to order all these new documents. For example do babies also need B permits?

I have found a few goods threads related to this but couldn't quite answer the question.

Thanks for your time
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Re: Birth certificates and permits for newborns?

Congratulations on your baby! We had ours nine months ago and were required to send in a certified copy of each of our birth certificates and marriage lisence issued not more than six months previusly. Then it took three months to get his birth certificate. Ours was only in German. If you didn't turn in any of those it probably isn't the official birth certificate.(but maybe you are lucky and it is).

As for a permit, yes your baby needs one. We went to one of the passportphoto places and had his picture taken for about 30 Francs (the guy also gave me a page of photo stickers with it) then we went and turned it in - you need the baby's passport and birth certificate as well. Ours were due for renewing anyway so we didn't have to show them anything else.

Hope this helps some. Congratulations again and good luck
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Re: Birth certificates and permits for newborns?

Thanks very much for the reply Jennova. Another quick question. Where did you get the passport photos done? I imagine it would be very difficult to get the photos done at one of those photoboths.
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Re: Birth certificates and permits for newborns?

I got his passport photo taken at an express photo place at the Enge shopping center across from the station in Zurich. The guy must have taken about 20 pictures before we got one that worked (he didn't speak English, but he was very nice and we understood each other for the most part anyway). I think I found out about it from another thread about passport photos on here, but I didn't see it when I looked. Most of the passport places have pictures of flags on their website or the store so you know if they can do one the right size for you. I think there are some places online that will print a passport photo as well. If you go with that option, make sure the background for the baby is white/cream. You can lay them down if they can't hold their heads up yet, but no part of an adult can be in a picture. I know in the US they would put a white sheet over the mom and lay the baby on her (depending on how old it was).
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Re: Birth certificates and permits for newborns?

another option is to lie your baby on a white sheet at home and snap away with a digital camera until you get a photo that meets all the requirements. We did this with our twins, one twin took 6 photos and we had one that was fine, the other twin took about 100 - but we got there!

We had tried going to a professional place, but after 1/2 hour both of them were crying and we didn't have any photos that were acceptable. Highly recommend doing it yourself!
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Re: Birth certificates and permits for newborns?

We also did the photos recently for a little one. Lying flat, my baby's head always went to one side so her face was never square onto the camera. I ended up sitting her up and putting my hand under her shirt so it couldn't be seen, and held her head up under her chin.

We went to the photo shop behind Kreutzplatz - the most crazy, messy shop I have ever seen! Well worth a visit
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The photographer we went to for the passport pics for our kid had a special holder for babies, they know one needs passport pics for children and that they head usually tilts when laying down. So we did take some time there, but it got done. Bern has a great passport photographer, right on the main square where the xmas markets are, he has some deals with local embassies so he knows what format and restrictions apply (white clothes, etc). It gets so expensive to do it, but on the other hand it is so nice now to be able to look at our child's passport pictures (we had them done 3weeks, 6mo, 1yr, 2yr since the laws back home about kids' passport changed).
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Re: Birth certificates and permits for newborns?

Thanks for the replies everyone. That's great info.

I have managed to find the Passport photo requirements for Australia on one of the consular websites and my wife considers herself a bit of a photographer so we might try at home tonight.

If that fails the option in the Bern old town will be our next stop.

Thanks again,
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Thanks for the replies everyone. That's great info.

I have managed to find the Passport photo requirements for Australia on one of the consular websites and my wife considers herself a bit of a photographer so we might try at home tonight.

If that fails the option in the Bern old town will be our next stop.

Thanks again,

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My question is then, is what I received an actual birth certificate. It is in 5 different languages and is titled "extract from the record of birth". It looks just like one to me...
At the Australian Mission in Geneva, I was told the 'extract' (in 5 languages) is actually the birth certificate. It can't have any more info about the birth than it already has. I gave that to them (and some other info) and my kids got their Australian passports.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. That's great info.

I have managed to find the Passport photo requirements for Australia on one of the consular websites and my wife considers herself a bit of a photographer so we might try at home tonight.

If that fails the option in the Bern old town will be our next stop.

Thanks again,
Do you still need to travel to Geneva for an interview to get a kid's first Australian passport? Do you happen to know how long is the baby passport valid?

I never got the Aussie passport for my son. When kids are older, is the passport is valid longer?

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Re: Birth certificates and permits for newborns?

Thanks Andrea S, so far what I can understand is that the "extract" is the appropriate document. It is an international Birth certificate. The HR lady at work was happy to except it as a birth certificate, but I haven't tried it at the Geneva consulate yet.

I vaguely remember, through my post new fatherhood- sleep deprived state, ticking the box at the hospital registration to say that I wanted a Geburtschein even though it was going to cost me extra (CHF 27). Was unsure why this was optional at the time (who wouldn't want a birth certifcate?). I think basically this gives me an international birth certifcate before registaring the birth with the Zivilstandsamt and getting a Swiss issued one. Glad I ticked that box now.


MarieZug- the way I understand it works now is that I first have to register him as an Australian citizen at the UK embassy. Once approved they will give me a Australian citizen certificate. I take this certificate to an interveiw at the Geneva consulate (for first time passport holders) for an interview and, if approved, Canberra sends a passport. Childrens passports upto the age of 18 are valid for 5 years only.
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