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rettav 21.05.2007 09:27

Work permit (on paper), but no residence permit yet
 
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Originally Posted by AnAustralian (Post 54142)
With the Swiss process, if they tell you it will be a certain length of time, you can be pretty sure it will be close to that length of time. They are efficient.

So hang in there you will probably hear very soon.

Hi I am Australian and have been granted a temporary work permit for 2 years only (not even an L permit). Do you know if this can be extended? They have never sent me anything with my photo on it which I think is a bit strange and I have been her a year already. All I have is a bit of paper saying I can stay 2 years.. but it is not really ID. My boss says its impossible to get this visa extended, but I wondered what you know about it..?
Thanks
Loretta

AnAustralian 21.05.2007 10:25

Re: Hong long do I still need to wait?
 
Hi Loretta,

Your query probably warrants its own thread, or may have been addressed in another thread. Unfortunately I do not know the answer to your question.

mark 21.05.2007 12:34

Re: Work permit (on paper), but no residence permit yet
 
Hi Loretta,

The previous poster was right - this question should not have been posted on someone else's thread - it was unrelated. I've now split this off onto its own thread.

Your situation is actually a lot more serious than whether or not your work permission can be extended. If you do not have your residence permit (called an Aufenhaltsbewilligung in German) then you have a big problem. This permit takes the form of a little booklet which roughly translated means foreigner's pass (Auslander Ausweis in German).

Unfortunately it is often the case that employers don't fully understand the rules (or bother to check) or inform their employees of their obligations.

Frankly, I'm amazed that you have actually managed to function in Switzerland without your residence permit, since almost everything you do requires it. But to cut a long story short, without a residence permit you have been staying here illegally. The fact that you have a piece of paper which says you have permission to work is irrelevant.

I know this might come as a shock, and doesn't seem to make sense, but that's how it works. I suggest you consult your employer immediately, and whatever they say (which will probably be "don't worry about it"), you need to visit your local community office and ask them why you don't have a residence permit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rettav
They have never sent me anything with my photo on it which I think is a bit strange and I have been her a year already

I can only hope that you've actually made a mistake here, and that you actually do have this document, but just forgot about it.

rettav 21.05.2007 14:14

Re: Work permit (on paper), but no residence permit yet
 
Hello again,

I did actually register at the Kreisburo and told them where I am living so they have this on record..
I am assume I am therefore a resident if this has taken place.
I am just worried as I have not received any formal visa in the post with my photo on it. My work place tell me they have contacted the authorities many times to get it but it has taken a year and it is not still here!
I will have to approach them again.
Thanks

mark 21.05.2007 14:32

Re: Work permit (on paper), but no residence permit yet
 
I also registered when I first arrived, prior to getting my residence permit - but this fact is completely separate from whether your not you actually have permission to live here longer than the three months which is allowed as a "tourist". If you have lived here longer than three months, you could be in a bit of a pickle.

One forum member was deported in pretty much exactly the same situation as you. He just had a piece of paper saying he was allowed to work, but not the residence permit.

Remember registration is not the same has having a permit. If you weren't issued with one, you don't have one. End of story. Good luck however it turns out.

You should also be aware that as a non-EU additional restrictions apply - like being required to have your permission to enter the country stamped in your passport OUTSIDE Switzerland before you enter. This step is a pre-requisite before your residence permit is issued. Many people have had to then travel outside the country just to complete this formality. This requirement has been in force since at least the beginning of this year, if it is in fact new, you may have escaped it - but not the requirement to have a residence permit.

rettav 21.05.2007 14:52

work permit
 
I checked again with my work and they contacted the Kreisburo, it seems that the process has been delayed because I moved house twice so it can take up to 6 months to process.
I only have the peice of paper saying I can work for 2 years and in the mean time but am trying my best to get the permit booklet with photo.
I think they just seem to be taking their time - but I was worried for a moment there by your comments.

21.05.2007 15:11

Re: Work permit (on paper), but no residence permit yet
 
I agree with Mark here - something is very wrong and you should not rely on hearsay from your employer on how things are going. You should contact the authorities directly. Another surprise is that you managed to move house twice without your residence permit, and that it appears your landlord didn't inform the authorities of your residence.

As someone who has to arrange residence permits in all sorts of situations for our employees I would highly advise that you go to your Geminder or Kreisburo with the documentation you have, plus your work contract and your rental agreement, and find out what is really going on. Take passport photographs with you.

I hope it is just a matter of sorting out the paperwork.

Sidar 07.07.2013 13:17

Re: Work permit (on paper), but no residence permit yet
 
Hi,

i would call the authorities as well, there is no better substitute then talking to them in person.

while you're at it i would see an option to apply for a B permit through you work place.

good luck

moggy 07.07.2013 13:32

Re: Work permit (on paper), but no residence permit yet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidar (Post 1921698)
Hi,

i would call the authorities as well, there is no better substitute then talking to them in person.

while you're at it i would see an option to apply for a B permit through you work place.

good luck

sorry, why are you replying to a thread that has not been active for 6 years+?

jessmstan 19.01.2014 15:48

Re: Work permit (on paper), but no residence permit yet
 
Hi EricXing and All,

I was wondering if you or anyone else could help clarify the process which I have mapped out below regarding similar topic.

I have this week signed a Contract with a firm in Zurich. The Firm has submitted necessary documents to apply for a Work Permit to hire me as a NON-EU national. I am Australian.

My understanding of the process from reading the Swiss Immigration Websites in both French (currently I am in Paris on a working-holiday visa) and in English (from the Swiss consulate website in Sydney, Australia) is as follows:

1. Secure job and execute Contract. Employer submits application to the Canton and the process begins to go through the Canton and then the Federal Government department FOM.

2. In parallel, The employee, being me is to apply for a long-stay Visa D at the consulate in the country which I am currently residing, being France.
QUESTION: Do I have to do this in parallel with the application my employer has submitted or do I have to wait til after I have received positive response on the work permit?
OR has my employer already requested this Visa D by submitting the application?

3. Once the Work Permit has been approved by the numerous Swiss authorities they will advise the 'relevant Swiss diplomatic representation abroad' to issue visa.
QUESTION: What visa is this? the Visa D? or the Work Permit? As the address that i have provided my employer is the French address, can I as an Australian apply for the Visa D at the Swiss consulate in France?

4. I am to collect the visa/permit (questions above) from the 'relevant Swiss diplomatic representation abroad' which I assume should be a visa sticker inside my passport. Is this correct?

5. Once I have obtained this long-stay Visa D in my passport I can then enter Switzerland and register to apply for my 'residency permit L or B'. This may take sometime so I can ask for a 'temporary residency permit', in the meantime I can commence work.

Would appreciate any comments to help guide me. I am stressed out that I have to apply for a Visa D which will take up to 8 weeks - and the employer wants me to start in 6 weeks. I gather my employer does not know much about the residency permit process, although they have sponsored non-EU employees before.

Thank you very much. Appreciate all your time.


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