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Old 04.03.2010, 21:29
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Prison for Parking infringement??

My french is very basic I know, but the letter I got today from police was quite scary. I live in Pully/Lausanne

I parked in a commercial centre and exceeded the number of hours allowed.

I got a letter first to confirm the identity which I filled I returned. then I got yesterday this one saying I have to pay CHF140 and another square on the left of the letter saying (Nombre do jours de peine privative de liberté de substitution: 1) , which google translated to number of days in prison.

Why on earth would someone go to jail for parking, without seeing a judge or anything. I will go tomorrow to police station but did anyone got something similar?
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Old 04.03.2010, 21:30
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My french is very basic I know, but the letter I got today from police was quite scary. I live in Pully/Lausanne

I parked in a commercial centre and exceeded the number of hours allowed.

I got a letter first to confirm the identity which I filled I returned. then I got yesterday this one saying I have to pay CHF140 and another square on the left of the letter saying (Nombre do jours de peine privative de liberté de substitution: 1) , which google translated to number of days in prison.

Why on earth would someone go to jail for parking, without seeing a judge or anything. I will go tomorrow to police station but did anyone got something similar?
If you don't pay, you go to jail.

Simples. Cough up.

Happens to us all (the fines that is, not the jail time )
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Old 04.03.2010, 21:45
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another square on the left of the letter saying (Nombre do jours de peine privative de liberté de substitution: 1) , which google translated to number of days in prison.
No, it didn't. It translated it as "Number of days of imprisonment substitution".

Time to book that French (or even just a Googling) course .

Carlos R's summary is spot-on: "Pay the fine, or do the time."
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Old 04.03.2010, 21:49
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Re: Prison for Parking infringement??

Ok since the question was answered i have another one. I thought that:

1) In commercial centers you get a ticket at the entrance and pay according to the hours you are parked at the exit

2) If you parked somewhere for a longer time that you are allowed to, you get a nice note on the windscreen which tells you to pay an amount with an orange payslip conveniently attached.

How come the OP is asked for identity confirmation and stuff? Im i missing something here?
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Old 04.03.2010, 21:51
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Re: Prison for Parking infringement??

IMO 140 CHF is quite a big fine.

Maybe the parking offence was more than a simple overtime, and more likely a traffic violation? i.e. parked in the wrong place, on a yellow line or no park zone?

Just guessing - we need a poll: guess the offence!

Or maybe it is private property so different rules apply?

PS: I want to know now... damn you Gata!
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Old 04.03.2010, 21:52
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How come the OP is asked for identity confirmation and stuff? Im i missing something here?
you are admitting liability, and repeat offenders probably get treated more harshly each time...
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Old 04.03.2010, 21:52
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Yup, I got one, still kept it. Sent to a UK address in English.

"Penal order for unlawfully parking. "
and scarily
"If the punished person culpably does not pay the fine, it will be replaced with a non-deferrable susbtitution custodial sentence of 10 days."
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Old 04.03.2010, 21:56
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you are admitting liability, and repeat offenders probably get treated more harshly each time...
Yeah, but I've had a couple of parking offences and 1) they were never 140 CHF and 2) never asked for address.

For that matter, they've never asked for confirmation of who I am for *ahem* standard speeding fines. When I was doing more than 15 kph over (hey it was an honest mistake ) that's when ID started to kick in, and the fine was way more than 140 CHF...
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IMO 140 CHF is quite a big fine.
It wasn't a fine, apparently; it was rent.

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Re: Prison for Parking infringement??

My parking violation was sent to my UK address and therefore took me 6 weeks to collect. It was 1000CHF fine for four consecutive days parking where I shouldn't have (the lines were covered in snow and other cars were nearby, it was Dec 31st, Jan 1st, 2nd, 3rd 2009 and I had the flu so couldnt be assed to move the car). They added 400chf to the 1k for the delay in paying it.

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Yeah, but I've had a couple of parking offences and 1) they were never 140 CHF and 2) never asked for address.

For that matter, they've never asked for confirmation of who I am for *ahem* standard speeding fines. When I was doing more than 15 kph over (hey it was an honest mistake ) that's when ID started to kick in, and the fine was way more than 140 CHF...
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Old 04.03.2010, 22:06
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My parking violation was sent to my UK address and therefore took me 6 weeks to collect. It was 1000CHF fine for four consecutive days parking where I shouldn't have (the lines were covered in snow and other cars were nearby, it was Dec 31st, Jan 1st, 2nd, 3rd 2009 and I had the flu so couldnt be assed to move the car). They added 400chf to the 1k for the delay in paying it.
Bummer.

Out of interest, did you try to appeal with a doctor's note or just cough up (pardon the pun)?
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Old 04.03.2010, 22:15
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I coughed up. Can't be bothered with the fight. It's a big reason I give for not wanting to live here ultra-long term. In the UK I could speak the language (obviously I could learn here, but in the UK I can speak it better than them ) I know the system and I'd tell them to F off and grab myself a lawyer from a pool of lawyer friends I know. It's too hard here with these sorts of things.

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Bummer.

Out of interest, did you try to appeal with a doctor's note or just cough up (pardon the pun)?
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Ok since the question was answered i have another one. I thought that:

1) In commercial centers you get a ticket at the entrance and pay according to the hours you are parked at the exit

2) If you parked somewhere for a longer time that you are allowed to, you get a nice note on the windscreen which tells you to pay an amount with an orange payslip conveniently attached.

How come the OP is asked for identity confirmation and stuff? Im i missing something here?
Some very small commercial centres outside the main city where you can park free for some time (mine was 3 hours), but I exceeded that time. This is control by Securitas, who will leave a small note on your car and will send the infingement details to the police, the fine actually came 6 weeks after the offense.

I was just scared becuase I never got anything saying "Prison"before from the police.

I payed big fine for parking on the wrong spot in New Zealand, but it never came from the Police and never mentioned anything to do with prison. I think it is too harsh for parking over time.
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Old 04.03.2010, 23:01
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Re: Prison for Parking infringement??

I happen to agree with you
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I coughed up. Can't be bothered with the fight. It's a big reason I give for not wanting to live here ultra-long term. In the UK I could speak the language (obviously I could learn here, but in the UK I can speak it better than them ) I know the system and I'd tell them to F off and grab myself a lawyer from a pool of lawyer friends I know. It's too hard here with these sorts of things.
So should I translate "can't be bothered with the fight" with "too lazy to play by the rules"?

Lines hidden by the snow. My oh my. I'm sure no one has *ever* heard that excuse. And the sign torn away by a terrible gale no doubt
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So should I translate "can't be bothered with the fight" with "too lazy to play by the rules"?

Lines hidden by the snow. My oh my. I'm sure no one has *ever* heard that excuse. And the sign torn away by a terrible gale no doubt
...is everybody in Geneva like you?
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Old 04.03.2010, 23:47
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Re: Prison for Parking infringement??

You can translate anything you like however you like. And I wasn't complaining here or anywhere else nor did I hesitate before paying the fine, nor think about it ever again until now. I really didn't mind that much, just didn't like the precedent.


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So should I translate "can't be bothered with the fight" with "too lazy to play by the rules"?

Lines hidden by the snow. My oh my. I'm sure no one has *ever* heard that excuse. And the sign torn away by a terrible gale no doubt
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Re: Prison for Parking infringement??

hmm i just did a search on this forum becaues I just got a call from the cops.. i was parked 90% in a blue zone..but actually my car was too big and the back end was in a yellow zone. the cop called to tell me this was a serious offence, and to get all my details (including the name of my dad and the maiden name of my mum!!). I said "so will you send me a fine" she said no this is a serious issue and not for the police to decide so she has to send it further and they will judge...i didnt understand where or to whome further!? but i wonder if i have to go to court!? is this possible!? i asked how much money and she said she didnt know cos they have to rule on it, but probably "sehr Teuer"

Yeiks...i think it might be time to flee the country
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Old 25.08.2010, 15:14
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Re: Prison for Parking infringement??

Were your wheels all within the blue zone? What street were you on?

But don't worry too much about it. The judge will decide how much you pay, you probably won't even need to be present. An admin charge is added. Then you pay. You might like to check your legal insurance, as it might be worth getting a legal opinion whether you've actually committed an offence.

"Very serious" What are these guys on?
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Re: Prison for Parking infringement??

hmm legal insurance!?

unfortunalty its ture..I was certainly breaking the rules...but not THAT much ... ;-)

blame these damn smart car drivers..they drive around creating smart car sized parking places..then us regular sized car drivers dont fit!!
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