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Extension and Transfer of job for Non EU only if salary is above 200K per annum?

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One of my husband's friends got a new job in Zurich (currently working in Basel and has a B permit). When he apporached the Labour office 2 months before, at Zurich, they said he can work and no issues.

But today, they informed him that he cannot work in Zurich (but can in Basel, if he has any job), as the new federal law for Zurich says that only people earning above 200K per annum (i.e top managment levels) will get extension or transfer to new jobs, in case they are Non EU. This law came only some 10 days before it seems (the friend said, from April 15, 2010).

I am not able to find any data like that in the Zurich site (and my German is NIL to understand if any thing mentioned in PDFs). Do any of you have any news related to this? Please kindly share.
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Old 23.04.2010, 16:24
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Re: Extension and Transfer of job for Non EU only if salary is above 200K per annum?

sounds like a perfect way to get a payrise!
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Re: Extension and Transfer of job for Non EU only if salary is above 200K per annum?

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surely "cantonal law"?
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Old 23.04.2010, 16:27
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surely "cantonal law"?
I am not sure about this. But something applicable to Zurich and Geneva from April 15th onwards is what that friend told my husband.

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sounds like a perfect way to get a payrise!

Payrise or paralyse?

My husband has a new offer in Zurich and we are just confused what to do next

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My husband has a new offer in Zurich and we are just confused what to do next
If he has an offer, a company is interested in him. They typically have HR people and they have their contacts at the Migration office. I tried to talk to the one in Zurich for several reasons in the past years and am quite happy that I have my C by now and can avoide any contct with them: If you call as an individual, you are usually treated pretty badly and when I was looking for information, they told me completely different stories for three times...

so I would let the HR ask for you, which is surely not only easier, but more likely to get a positive answer.
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Hi,

new federal law for Zurich
Hi,

Do you have the link? or number for this "law" ? I really doubt this, as Treverus said, when you call/go the work office, they tell you different versions, Its really unbelievable, they are suppose to inform, but I ended up quite misinformed after some calls/visits.
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Old 23.04.2010, 19:50
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Re: Extension and Transfer of job for Non EU only if salary is above 200K per annum?

When I got above a certain salary level my B-permit, which up until then was on a yearly renewal basis, was given a 5-year renewal term with a nice little letter saying this was so because I was Wirtschaftlich Wertvol" so what the office said could well be.
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so I would let the HR ask for you, which is surely not only easier, but more likely to get a positive answer.
In Feb 2010, when my husband got the offer, he went to Basel and Zurich Canton and checked whether he can change his job and canton. They said YES, he can work anywhere in Switzerland and even don't need to apply for a new work permit. He can just need to do the renewal with his new company details when the current one expires. But now totally confused.

Regarding HR checking for us, the company before offering the letter told that it is valid only if we have a valid permit to work here, which obviously means that they are not going to do anything for us.

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Do you have the link? or number for this "law" ? I really doubt this, as Treverus said, when you call/go the work office, they tell you different versions, Its really unbelievable, they are suppose to inform, but I ended up quite misinformed after some calls/visits.
I don't have a link. I just tried finding any information from here, but in vain.

http://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/kultur/de/index.html

My husband used to call Zurich Canton office in some number. I have to check with him. But now we are really scared to call and check again, to face the negative answer.
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Re: Extension and Transfer of job for Non EU only if salary is above 200K per annum?

Hi Myth,

Is that the correct news you posted earlier or what exactly was the new rule.

Can you please help with an answer.
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Hi Myth,

Is that the correct news you posted earlier or what exactly was the new rule.

Can you please help with an answer.
Hi, I replied to your PM already. But to make sure this thread is updated, here are the details.

So far, two of my husband's friends left Switzerland due to this reason (200K issue), who got offers in Zurich (and thankfully they had other offers back at home).

But two of his other friends who got offers in Basel didn't face any issues and they are working here now. So, still not having a clear picture.

In my hubby's case, he got an offer in Zurich and started working recently. Till now didn't apply for transfer / ext of permit, as he has a valid permit till November. Also, his employer told that he don't need to do anything till October and they will help during that time to transfer / extend the permit.

So I can have an idea to update by October / November only. Hope this helps.
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Re: Extension and Transfer of job for Non EU only if salary is above 200K per annum?

Again here to update.

My husband's friend who changed his job few months before in Basel, got a notification along with a form, directly from Basel Kanton office for renewal of B permit. He just filled the form, got a seal from his new office and submitted in the Kanton office. He got his B permit within 10 days. No hassels at all.

He did nothing at the time of job change. I mean, he didn't notify the Kanton about job change or didn't try to change the work permit from previous employer to current employer. It got changed automatically now.

In my husband's case, he works in Zurich but we still live in Basel in fear to change. But a little ray of hope arose when we checked in Basel Kanton for living in Basel. They said we can live in Basel for "N" number of years, as long as my husband has a job in Switzerland. So, we planned to extend our stay in Basel (November our current permit expires), just like the friend did and later give a try to move to Zurich.
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Re: Extension and Transfer of job for Non EU only if salary is above 200K per annum?

Thanks for the reminder - I have searched long and hard for this "rule" and talked to ZH and SG officials. It does not exist.

Until a link to an official confirmation is provided please treat with utmost scepticism.
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Thanks for the reminder - I have searched long and hard for this "rule" and talked to ZH and SG officials. It does not exist.

Until a link to an official confirmation is provided please treat with utmost scepticism.
Swissbob, thanks (I couldn't able to find the thanks button )

Yes, it is not a written rule I guess, as I too couldn't able to find it anywhere else, except from those two friends words, who went back to India. It could be just a fake reason used to reject applications during the hard time (Jan 2010 to May 2010).

I said the same to all those who sent me PM.

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Now my update again, with a bit of flashbacks.

My husband worked in Basel for 2.5 years. Got a B permit. Later he got a job in Zurich in a direct Swiss company. When checked in Basel, they said his B permit is Open and he can work anywhere in Switzerland, for any company. But later when checked in Zurich, they said, he cannot change job as his permit is a closed one. We are not sure whether it is a open or closed permit till this moment.

The company where he joined didn't insist for work permit change and asked him to join with his existing permit itself, as the lawyer team of the company told the HR that he is eligible to work. My husband joined the company.

We contacted Basel canton (where we live even now), and asked where we should apply for our permit card extension when it expires (as we were not sure whether to apply in the canton where we live or where we work). Basel canton confirmed us that we need to apply in Basel only as we live there. They said, they just want a proof that we have job.

Though our permits expire date was 30 November 2010, we walked directly to canton, and asked whether we can apply for extension now itself. They asked us whether we got any form from Bern asking for extension. We said NO. After a moment of thinking, the officer there gave us three forms (for myself, husband and son) from his desk, which are the same form people used to get from Bern. In the form, there was column to be filled by the employer, just for the proof that my husband is employed by them. We filled it, got the seal and signature from the company and submitted it last Tuesday.

Yesterday (not even a week), we got our permits directly from Basel canton office (not the bern office) by registerd post. Only sad thing (it is a very minimal sadness though) is, the permits are valid for only one year. We will complete one year of B permit in November 2010. So it is again one year B permit, that is till November 2011.
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Only sad thing (it is a very minimal sadness though) is, the permits are valid for only one year. We will complete one year of B permit in November 2010. So it is again one year B permit, that is till November 2011.
Congrats on recieving your extensions. But don't really understand why are you sad, even minimal. Being a non-EU we only get permit extensions for 1 year. Isn't it ? Although I have read on this site that after X years on B , people have got it for more than 1 year (however, no one I know personally, has got it).
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Though our permits expire date was 30 November 2010, we walked directly to canton, and asked whether we can apply for extension now itself. They asked us whether we got any form from Bern asking for extension. We said NO. After a moment of thinking, the officer there gave us three forms (for myself, husband and son) from his desk, which are the same form people used to get from Bern. In the form, there was column to be filled by the employer, just for the proof that my husband is employed by them. We filled it, got the seal and signature from the company and submitted it last Tuesday.

Yesterday (not even a week), we got our permits directly from Basel canton office (not the bern office) by registerd post. Only sad thing (it is a very minimal sadness though) is, the permits are valid for only one year. We will complete one year of B permit in November 2010. So it is again one year B permit, that is till November 2011.
You never get forms from Bern. Unless you're actually domiciled there.
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You never get forms from Bern. Unless you're actually domiciled there.
OK. I don't know much about this. So far, my husband's previous employer used to do all the formalities and we used to get a letter from Basel canton asking us to walk there with our photos and passport. This is the first time we did it on our own.

Also, so far when we received the permit card, the from address was Bern Federal office address. But this time it was Basel canton address.

Not sure how it gets processed.
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