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Old 01.09.2008, 14:28
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No. The employer still needs to make an application for the work permit but it is virtually guaranteed to be granted.
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Maybe this is answered elsewhere but I have not been able to find any similar question.

I am Australian living in Australia. My wife and kids are EU citizens. She does not work for at least another few years. We all plan to move to Zurich if I can get work here. I won't come unless I can get a job.

Does the fact that I am married to her improve my chances of getting a work permit. My guess is no from the forums, but just want to check.

What kind of permit would we get?

Thanks in advance for any replies.
Depending on which EU country, both you and your wife would/should get 5-year B permits, allowing either of you to work anywhere and for anyone.

At least, that's what happened to my wife (Australian) and I (British/EU+Australian) earlier this year.

You may have more luck (/quicker response) if you settle in a more "ex-pat friendly" Kanton.
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Depending on which EU country, both you and your wife would/should get 5-year B permits, allowing either of you to work anywhere and for anyone.

At least, that's what happened to my wife (Australian) and I (British/EU+Australian) earlier this year.

You may have more luck (/quicker response) if you settle in a more "ex-pat friendly" Kanton.
I bet the last ten bucks that aviation powers-that-be didn't rip off me this morning that it was you who applied for the job, not your wife
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I bet the last ten bucks that aviation powers-that-be didn't rip off me this morning that it was you who applied for the job, not your wife
Well, my work was a transfer from Sydney to Zurich with the same company.

However, my permit, as far as I understand, is completely independent of that job (ie: I would have got it regardless - assuming I could show some evidence of being able to support myself).
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Hi to all.As a non-EU, I signed an unlimited contract with an international company based in Basel at the end of June.My contract starts at the 1st of October.And my notice period for leaving my actual job is a month.So;I have to give my resignation before September.Actually as there is no guarantee for granting residence permit, I do not want to resign before receiving the approval letter.Because of that,time is not easily passing for me.

My future employer says in general it takes 15 days, maximum a month.Some people says it takes between three and four months.In the forum some says it takes between two and three months.Answers are unbelievably different. I am totally confused and stressed.Is not there any standard timeframe for evaluation of the residence permit application in Switzerland?

Hello EF, I am in a similar situation as DELTA76 non EU and accepted by the employer . All terms have been agreed between me and my employer although paperworks are still flying between us. I assume we are in the process of obtaining the WP. I was told 4-6 weeks once all required papers are recieved at CH. I was given a contract start date of Mid Oct although obtaining WP is stilll in progress. I have not yet given my resig letter until at least I recieve the WP. After this I understood I have to 'Register' after arrival to get the Residence Permit (is this true) and will take some time to obtain. My worry is that I may fail to obtain the Residence Permit for some technicalities, qoutas, etc.. that I may not be aware of. Need your advise badly, paging Shorrick..

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Hello EF, I am in a similar situation as DELTA76 non EU and accepted by the employer . All terms have been agreed between me and my employer although paperworks are still flying between us. I assume we are in the process of obtaining the WP. I was told 4-6 weeks once all required papers are recieved at CH. I was given a contract start date of Mid Oct although obtaining WP is stilll in progress. I have not yet given my resig letter until at least I recieve the WP. After this I understood I have to 'Register' after arrival to get the Residence Permit (is this true) and will take some time to obtain.
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My worry is that I may fail to obtain the Residence Permit for some technicalities, qoutas, etc.. that I may not be aware of. Need your advise badly, paging Shorrick..

This forum continues to amaze me with its wealth of information.. Thanks.
The work permit is your residence permit, so if your work permit is approved then automatically you're authorised to enter and take residence. There is no guarantee however that you *will* get a work permit though, for the reasons you mentioned.
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Well, my work was a transfer from Sydney to Zurich with the same company.

However, my permit, as far as I understand, is completely independent of that job (ie: I would have got it regardless - assuming I could show some evidence of being able to support myself).
True; however for most people evidence of self-support comes by means of a job

So as far as the original question was concerned, if the EU spouse applies for a permit without a job and / or without sufficient means to support the whole family, then it will most likely be denied.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

I am non-EU and have a B permit that mentions only "Aufenthaltsbewilligung".

Can someone tell me if it is subject to quota or not?
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[...]After this I understood I have to 'Register' after arrival to get the Residence Permit (is this true) and will take some time to obtain. My worry is that I may fail to obtain the Residence Permit for some technicalities, qoutas, etc.. [...]
I believe the confusion arises from the fact that they call "Residence Permit" to the document you get after registering, when it's actually your Temp. Resident ID. It doesn't take long to get after you register (typically under 2 weeks), and YOU WILL get it, as your Residence Permit is already approved and they will ask you for it when you go to your City Hall to register.

Does it make sense now ?
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zulassung code

Hi everyone

I need urgent help. My fiance started to work in weel-known company in basel with a fix contract. But on friday we learned that he was given L permit.
My questions are
Is there any way to change the from L to B?
Will his work permit effect my residence?

On the paper he was given it says 'zulassung code 3605'
Do you what this means? Is it used for L or B?
I searched the web but couldn't find anything.

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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Process of obtaining work permit is only half of the problem.After arrival to Switzerland you can face with L Permit problem.Believe me; if you are a non-EU having l permit; life will not be easy.And there is no guarantee of B permit; if the employer told you that there will be no problem about the permit.Should NOT trust them.Always remember that you should try to be in the safe side.Or you will be totally disappointed like me.

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Hello EF, I am in a similar situation as DELTA76 non EU and accepted by the employer . All terms have been agreed between me and my employer although paperworks are still flying between us. I assume we are in the process of obtaining the WP. I was told 4-6 weeks once all required papers are recieved at CH. I was given a contract start date of Mid Oct although obtaining WP is stilll in progress. I have not yet given my resig letter until at least I recieve the WP. After this I understood I have to 'Register' after arrival to get the Residence Permit (is this true) and will take some time to obtain. My worry is that I may fail to obtain the Residence Permit for some technicalities, qoutas, etc.. that I may not be aware of. Need your advise badly, paging Shorrick..

This forum continues to amaze me with its wealth of information.. Thanks.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Shorrick, I searched the forum and find the list of Zulassung Codes for EU/EFTA countries.However, I could not find Zulassung Code list for non-EU countries.Do you have this list or do you know how I can reach it.Thanks in advance for your reply.
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Hi everyone

I need urgent help. My fiance started to work in weel-known company in basel with a fix contract. But on friday we learned that he was given L permit.
My questions are
Is there any way to change the from L to B?
Will his work permit effect my residence?

On the paper he was given it says 'zulassung code 3605'
Do you what this means? Is it used for L or B?
I searched the web but couldn't find anything.

Thank you. Kind Regards
An L permit is appropriate for a fixed term contract. It would most likely only change to a B if the employment contract changes to permament, and then only on renewal.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hello Swissbob,

Echo is my fiancee and is trying to help me, so I love her so much.But there is misunderstanding about the type of contract.I have an unlimited contract, not the fix term contract.But unfortunately I received L permit instead of B.As I searched from the forum, maybe it is just because of quota.But my company employs lots of foreigners and I am the only one having L permit as non-EU up to now.At least HR told me so.Another possibility maybe the budget of canton for the permits or another thing.I do not know.

To understand the reason of having L instead of B, i need the meaning of Zulassung Code:3605.Do you know what it stands for (B or L)?

And another question, again as I understand from the comments in the forum, it is possible but there is no guarantee to bring my fiancee after our marriage to Switzerland with a dependant permit;is it correct?
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Dear All,

I need your expert advice on one question.

I have read in this post that non-EU B permit holder (long term permit) can change jobs.

I am an permanent employee of a company based in India which has a office in Zurich too. I came here on deputation and working since 3 years now.
First 2 years I hold a L permit and since 1 year, I have B permit. "Aufenthaltsbewilligung" is written on my B permit.

How do I know that my permit is a long term or short term permit. Is there a way to make out by looking at the permit?

Thanks for your answers.

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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hello all,

I am in a situation where I no longer know what I can do and cannot do. I read and hear too many conflicting issues on this permit issue and I hope someone here will be able to clarify.

I am currently on a L permit (until 1 AUG 2009) and am thinking of switching to a Swiss contract (permanent) soon. However I need to know the implications of such a move.

Will I be able to get a B-permit (turn in my L in exchange for a B) or do I have to wait till my L permit runs out? My company said they will find out, but I thought I may get the answer here sooner than waiting for them.

The attorney in the relocation company that they are working with, has also mentioned that my wife will be able to work regardless of whether I am on a L or B permit. After reading this forum, I am very doubtful about what she said. Therefore I intend to ask her for the exact details that state that.

This same attorney has also told another colleague of mine (in the same situation) that a B permit will only be granted after the L permit has been in effect for 2 years. Is this so?

Hope to hear from the experts in this forum soon!

Thanks!
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Are you Dutch? EU or Non-EU?
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Oh, I forgot to mention, I am non-EU

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Hello all,

I am in a situation where I no longer know what I can do and cannot do. I read and hear too many conflicting issues on this permit issue and I hope someone here will be able to clarify.

I am currently on a L permit (until 1 AUG 2009) and am thinking of switching to a Swiss contract (permanent) soon. However I need to know the implications of such a move.

Will I be able to get a B-permit (turn in my L in exchange for a B) or do I have to wait till my L permit runs out? My company said they will find out, but I thought I may get the answer here sooner than waiting for them.

The attorney in the relocation company that they are working with, has also mentioned that my wife will be able to work regardless of whether I am on a L or B permit. After reading this forum, I am very doubtful about what she said. Therefore I intend to ask her for the exact details that state that.

This same attorney has also told another colleague of mine (in the same situation) that a B permit will only be granted after the L permit has been in effect for 2 years. Is this so?

Hope to hear from the experts in this forum soon!

Thanks!
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Hello all,

I am in a situation where I no longer know what I can do and cannot do. I read and hear too many conflicting issues on this permit issue and I hope someone here will be able to clarify.

I am currently on a L permit (until 1 AUG 2009) and am thinking of switching to a Swiss contract (permanent) soon. However I need to know the implications of such a move.

Will I be able to get a B-permit (turn in my L in exchange for a B) or do I have to wait till my L permit runs out? My company said they will find out, but I thought I may get the answer here sooner than waiting for them.

The attorney in the relocation company that they are working with, has also mentioned that my wife will be able to work regardless of whether I am on a L or B permit. After reading this forum, I am very doubtful about what she said. Therefore I intend to ask her for the exact details that state that.

This same attorney has also told another colleague of mine (in the same situation) that a B permit will only be granted after the L permit has been in effect for 2 years. Is this so?

Hope to hear from the experts in this forum soon!

Thanks!
A
you can apply for the B permit before the L pemit runs out, so that shouldnt be an issue. Granting of B permit does not depend on how long you hold the L permit. I had conversion to B with just 6 months on L when i changed the company. Also your attorney is wrong about spouse of L permit holders being able too work freely. They can only work if they get authorisation from the authorities.

Dont quit your job until the new employer get you a new permit.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Thank you for the reply.

The attorney said that the spouse can tell potential employers that she is able to work as long as I am able to. However she needs to inform the authorities, and once everything is noted, she will be able to work.

It is for the same employer, I am just switching to the Swiss branch of the company.

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you can apply for the B permit before the L pemit runs out, so that shouldnt be an issue. Granting of B permit does not depend on how long you hold the L permit. I had conversion to B with just 6 months on L when i changed the company. Also your attorney is wrong about spouse of L permit holders being able too work freely. They can only work if they get authorisation from the authorities.

Dont quit your job until the new employer get you a new permit.
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