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justdoit 27.10.2008 11:22

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
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Originally Posted by atan (Post 338087)
Thank you for the reply.

The attorney said that the spouse can tell potential employers that she is able to work as long as I am able to. However she needs to inform the authorities, and once everything is noted, she will be able to work.

It is for the same employer, I am just switching to the Swiss branch of the company.

IF you are switching to a permanent contract for the same company it would be less of a problem. The change from L to B only happens during the renewal period in this case. Your employer needs to state the new facts about your job situation. Whether you get a B or a L does not depend on the type of job though it does influence. Sometime if you are on permenant contract you would still get an L, some of the reasons given have been "the B permit quota has run out" etc..

Hope everything works out fine

Guest 27.10.2008 11:26

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
Well, I was on a Dutch contract seconded to a project here (Hence the L permit). However, due to project needs, I am considering switching to a Swiss contract. Both contracts are permanent, just the countries are different.

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Originally Posted by justdoit (Post 338089)
IF you are switching to a permanent contract for the same company it would be less of a problem. The change from L to B only happens during the renewal period in this case. Your employer needs to state the new facts about your job situation. Whether you get a B or a L does not depend on the type of job though it does influence. Sometime if you are on permenant contract you would still get an L, some of the reasons given have been "the B permit quota has run out" etc..

Hope everything works out fine


Guest 27.10.2008 11:26

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
I mean I am on a Dutch contract. LOL. These issues are doing my head in. :msnmad:

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Originally Posted by atan (Post 338095)
Well, I was on a Dutch contract seconded to a project here (Hence the L permit). However, due to project needs, I am considering switching to a Swiss contract. Both contracts are permanent, just the countries are different.


Wife of a swiss 28.10.2008 13:31

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
I am an American citizen and my husband is a swiss and also and American citizen, he was born and raised here but lived in the US for many years. We are living here in Basel now, my husband is working, does not have a permit because he does not need one.

My question is, when I receive my B permit, will it automatically allow me to work? If so, is this new since 1.1.2008?

I read the thread end to end and I feel confused from all of the different information listed in it:msncrazy:

Please if there are any spouses that are married to a swiss citizen, please let me know your experience. I am very,very anxious to work but I want to be clear about what I can and cannot do.

Thank you in advance for any information or help that you can give.

Guest 31.10.2008 02:43

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
I understand I have posted this is another thread, but this one seems to be a little more active perhaps.

My question is how long does it typically take to get a non-EU work permit? I am a Canadian and will be hopefully working for Alstom in Baden. The company applied for it perhaps in the second last week of August. So its been about 10-11 weeks now that Ive been waiting.

DELTA76 31.10.2008 12:49

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After application of my employer, mine took around 3-4 weeks.They applied for the B permit in the second week of July 2008 and I received the approval for L in the first week of August as non-EU.:msncrazy: But, I do not know the situation for the other cantons. :msnsarcastic:

Guest 14.11.2008 10:54

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
I searched the forum and still didn’t found the answer:
Are there different B-permits: short term and long-term?
If yes how to determine is it long or short term if I look at it?

thanks a lot in advance

justdoit 14.11.2008 11:10

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
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Originally Posted by Wife of a swiss (Post 338960)
I am an American citizen and my husband is a swiss and also and American citizen, he was born and raised here but lived in the US for many years. We are living here in Basel now, my husband is working, does not have a permit because he does not need one.

My question is, when I receive my B permit, will it automatically allow me to work? If so, is this new since 1.1.2008?

I read the thread end to end and I feel confused from all of the different information listed in it:msncrazy:

Please if there are any spouses that are married to a swiss citizen, please let me know your experience. I am very,very anxious to work but I want to be clear about what I can and cannot do.

Thank you in advance for any information or help that you can give.

The answer is yes, you are allowed to work. Dont get into the discussions about before or after 01.01.2008. FYI i am not married to a swiss, so may not be the right person you are expecting information from

chris_l 14.11.2008 11:12

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
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Originally Posted by poladin (Post 349101)
I searched the forum and still didn’t found the answer:
Are there different B-permits: short term and long-term?
If yes how to determine is it long or short term if I look at it?

thanks a lot in advance


Hi Poladin,

The info is on the first page of this thread, I think the answer is that you have 3 types of be according to the site:

B PERMIT (Ausländerausweis)
LONG-TERM WORK PERMIT. SUBJECT TO QUOTA (Aufenthaltbewilligung mit Erwerbstätigkeit)
  • Economic interests
  • Employee qualifications
  • Priority for Swiss and European Union workers
  • Compliance with local employment conditions
  • Availability of quota
  • Renewable until granting of settlement C permit after 10 years (USA + Canada 5 years)
B PERMIT
ANNUAL SHORT-TERM WORK PERMIT. SUBJECT TO QUOTA (Kurzaufenthaltbewilligung)
  • Important projects
  • Career plan
  • International joint programmes
  • Sportspersons
  • Up to 3 years,even a maximum of 6 years in certain cases
RESIDENTS' B PERMIT (Aufenthaltbewilligung im Rahmen des Familiennachzugs)
LONG-TERM RESIDENCE PERMIT. NOT SUBJECT TO QUOTA
  • Permit delivered for family dependents.
  • Does not include work permission - this must be applied for separately (no quotas; indigenous priority does not apply anymore since 1.1.08)
  • Renewable
  • Possibility of conversion into C Permit
Hope this helps

Cheers,

Christian

thedog 20.11.2008 13:56

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
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Originally Posted by Shorrick Mk2 (Post 70607)

Changing a job or place of work

Since the 1st of Jan. 2008 foreign nationals who hold an annual work permit (B Permit) must no longer obtain permission to change job, profession or canton and to change from employment to self-employment. Note this applies only to permits delivered for long-term contracts, not to short-duration or job-specific (i.e. project) permits. Legal base Art. 38 AuG / LEtr

It is true and that's what the law says but recently I discovered it was not the case. I have been interviewed by a company. They approved me but when they checked with the authorities it turned out that being on a non-EU B permit I can't change employer. I have to discontinue my current permit, go to my home country while the new company would apply for a new permit, wait 3-4 months for it to get approved (if it gets approved) and then go for the new job back in Switzerland. So I guess we're missing something here. Can somebody point out the legal basis for this?:)

Shorrick Mk2 03.12.2008 07:42

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
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Originally Posted by thedog (Post 352449)
Can somebody point out the legal basis for this?:)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Shorrick Mk2 (Post 70607)
Note this applies only to permits delivered for long-term contracts, not to short-duration or job-specific (i.e. project) permits.

There you go.

thedog 03.12.2008 08:47

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Originally Posted by Shorrick Mk2 (Post 359383)
There you go.

I'm affraid that is not the case as I am on a permanent contract.

Shorrick Mk2 03.12.2008 08:53

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
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Originally Posted by thedog (Post 359396)
I'm affraid that is not the case as I am on a permanent contract.

I'm afraid a short-term permit can be delivered for a perm contract depending on how the contract is worded and how the initial application is made.

thedog 03.12.2008 08:56

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
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Originally Posted by Shorrick Mk2 (Post 359399)
I'm afraid a short-term permit can be delivered for a perm contract depending on how the contract is worded.

OK then the following question - is there a "short term" "B Aufenthaltsbewilligung"? Because I've got a B... it seems that there are then "privileged" and "non-privileged" or conditional permits. Correct me if I'm wrong :)

Shorrick Mk2 03.12.2008 09:00

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
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Originally Posted by thedog (Post 359401)
OK then the following question - is there a "short term" "B Aufenthaltsbewilligung"? Because I've got a B... it seems that there are then "privileged" and "non-privileged" or conditional permits. Correct me if I'm wrong :)

Have you read the first post waaay at the top of this sticky thread?

thedog 03.12.2008 09:09

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
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Originally Posted by Shorrick Mk2 (Post 359402)
Have you read the first post waaay at the top of this sticky thread?


I have read it numerous times before posting. As a matter of fact I have read it just now again. I have a long-term contract (no time limits) and an "Aufenthaltsbewilligung" not a "Kurzaufenthaltsbewilligung" for what I care. If there is something else that I must know please point it out. Thank you in advance.

Shorrick Mk2 03.12.2008 09:31

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedog (Post 359406)
I have read it numerous times before posting. As a matter of fact I have read it just now again. I have a long-term contract (no time limits) and an "Aufenthaltsbewilligung" not a "Kurzaufenthaltsbewilligung" for what I care. If there is something else that I must know please point it out. Thank you in advance.

What you care certainly doesn't matter much unfortunately.

A long-term contract is certainly no guarantee of having a long-term B, as (even on this forum) there have been numerous instances of people delivered either a L permit or a short term permit when quotas for long-term B permits were exhausted.

Does your permit have an expiry date on it?

thedog 03.12.2008 09:37

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
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Originally Posted by Shorrick Mk2 (Post 359416)
What you care certainly doesn't matter much unfortunately.

A long-term contract is certainly no guarantee of having a long-term B, as (even on this forum) there have been numerous instances of people delivered either a L permit or a short term permit when quotas for long-term B permits were exhausted.

Does your permit have an expiry date on it?

Thanks for replying - yes it does. The expiry was set to one year after issuance and it's going to expire soon. However I received the application form for "Verlangerung" and have already filed it with the local Gemeinde.

chris_l 03.12.2008 10:09

Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shorrick Mk2 (Post 359416)
A long-term contract is certainly no guarantee of having a long-term B, as (even on this forum) there have been numerous instances of people delivered either a L permit or a short term permit when quotas for long-term B permits were exhausted.

That is my case :( but looking at the bright-side, at least I'm able to work here which is a very good thing.

Cheers,

Christian

danny 10.12.2008 13:51

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C PERMIT
SETTLEMENT PERMIT

Here endeth your quest...

Implications:
  • Holders are not taxed at source anymore - regardless of income level.
  • Holders can buy residences unrestricted to a primary residence.
  • Holders can vote and be eligible on communal matters.
  • In some cantons holders can apply and be enrolled in the police force.
  • Moving and changing jobs is not subject to any authorisation whatsoever.
  • The permit can be suspended for as much as four years if the holder wishes to move temporarily abroad for education or career purposes.
  • The holder is entitled to unemployment (provided he contributed for the standard period to unemployment insurance).
  • Holders can work independently without applying for authorisation.
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I think you can suspend the permit for 2 years and not 4 as stated above...unless things changed as of January 1, 2008.


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