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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

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After reading bullet points, I understood "Aufenthaltbewilligung mit Erwerbstätigkeit" is a transferable permit.--Please correct me if I am wrong..
I have this type of B permit with expire date, And one job consultant reply me, sorry your permit is untransferable and add it is difficult to get job in this market condition with this permit.
Can anyone please tell me "Is this type of permit is really not useful for me to look for a job in swiss?"
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You or your employer has received certainly a letter from Migrationamt called "Stellenantritt". There is a section that starts with "Bedingungen" (Condition). If in that section, you had something like "Ein stellenwechsel ist nicht möglich" : means that you can not change your work. Otherwise, you can.

Until when is your work permit valid (in the same paper, you could see)?
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Old 25.03.2009, 22:07
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

I can say..if it is in employers hand to make permit non-transferable..
I think no employer wants to give transferable option to thier employees....indirectly saying...they prefer to make job bond with them.
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I missed that stellenantritt letter and As it is credit card format(new format) i can't see "Ein stellenwechsel ist nicht möglich"

But do you know what does this means "Selbst. Erwerbstätigkeit ist bewilligungspflichtig"?
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I can say..if it is in employers hand to make permit non-transferable..
I think no employer wants to give transferable option to thier employees....indirectly saying...they prefer to make job bond with them.
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I missed that stellenantritt letter and As it is credit card format(new format) i can't see "Ein stellenwechsel ist nicht möglich"

But do you know what does this means "Selbst. Erwerbstätigkeit ist bewilligungspflichtig"?
Means that for self-employment, you should get a permit.

In Arbeitsamt or Migrationamt, you could get a copy of Stellenantritt.
Do you know by heart until when is your work valid ? when did last time your employer renewed your work permit ?
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Old 03.04.2009, 19:05
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Something rather weird ...... Are local authorities realy without general knowledge of the law? ... Or am I missing something here?

I went to apply for my new B-Permit (a couple months earlier `cause I`ll be out of the country when the usual renewal form arrives at my house) .... The lady behind the counter took my original and gave me a photostat copy.

Now .... my family here are planning to go visit friends deep in Deutschland for the Easter weekend, and without my B-Permit I cannot go with ... So I went and lamented this at the Gemeinder, and the lady gave me back my original, for the Easter weekend, and told me to be sure to bring it back afterwards!

It is just lying there in a file, denying me EU travel for about 4 months till the expiry date (my new one usually arrives weeks after the renewal date - never before - which would bring it to about 5 months this year!)

So, okay, I take it back after the Easter weekend. And then on 1st May I fly to Dubai ....... she said I can come and fetch it to take with me for my trip.

Is this WEIRD?.. or WHAT? I can keep borrowing my permit? .. until the new one arrives!

Oh, pertaining to my opening statement ..... She, the Gemeinder lady, was shocked when I told her I can travel into Germany with my Swiss B Permit, without a Schengen Visa!
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Old 05.04.2009, 22:27
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F permits...any information?

i have a swiss ID now that says F status on the back and it expires in one year.

any idea what the F permit means?

thanks!
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Old 05.04.2009, 22:37
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Re: F permits...any information?

Hi, I am not sure if you have a real Swiss ID ( light blue colour credit card size format valid for 10 years ), but an F permit ( booklet valid for one year ) is a provisional admission for asylum seekers / refugees.

Here is the link from BFM.

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Old 05.04.2009, 22:39
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Please read the thread with which I've merged yours for more information.
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Re: F permits...any information?

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i have a swiss ID now that says F status on the back and it expires in one year.

any idea what the F permit means?

thanks!
A Swiss ID and F permit is mutually exclusive! Temporary stay ( F permit asylum seekers / provisional refugees ) cannot be granted to Swiss Citizens ( Swiss ID credit card format as below ) in Switzerland!




I believe you have in your hands an F permit - translated link verifies it is issued for 12 months at a time subject to conditions to home home country / country of your birth.

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Hi, I am not sure if you have a real Swiss ID ( light blue colour credit card size format valid for 10 years ), but an F permit ( booklet valid for one year ) is a provisional admission for asylum seekers / refugees.

Here is the link from BFM.

my ID is yellow with my photo on the front....it does get funny looks from people, like today when i thought about getting a cell phone contract instead of continuing on with my pre paid cell phone.

that's interesting. thanks!
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Old 06.04.2009, 15:40
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Re: F permits...any information?

it is a credit card sized plastic ID much like my DL from washington DC.

i was told it was a diplomatic work visa when i had to go to geneva to physically pick it up...so weird. they took my passport first and then mailed that back to me....i thought it odd that they couldn't mail me this ID card

once there this fellow talked to me about my rights as a worker in switz....and on the top it says it is from the department of foreign affairs....my employers say that next year i will have to go back to geneva and renew this card to stay another year.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - Girlfriend arriving from Argentina

Hello all !

I have a situation regarding work permit / entry in switzerland and I am sure some of you can give me some good info.

I explain :

- I am French
- I work in Zurich with a B permit since 2 months

- My girlfriend want to move to zurich to start working / find a job (for long term) and live with me
- She comes from Argentina
- She has a business degree
- We plan an arrival for second week of june

I was planning to get married earlier as we made plans for France but now we plan to stay in Zurich, I don't know what is the best solution.

- she will have to ask for a visa of entry ?
- what will be her first status / tourist ? L permit ?
- If we finally get married in France, will it allow her to stay with me and to search for work (simply) ?

I am a bit lost to be honest and I hope there is a nice way do "solve" the situation.

I will pay attention to your comments

Thanks

Charles
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Old 15.04.2009, 14:26
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Re: Non-EU Permits - Girlfriend arriving from Argentina

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- she will have to ask for a visa of entry ?
If required for a tourist.

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- what will be her first status / tourist ? L permit ?
Tourist - max 3 months

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- If we finally get married in France, will it allow her to stay with me and to search for work (simply) ?
Yes
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

so the best .. way to deal with this situation may be (correct me if you have a better idea) :

1- she comes in switzerland with tourist visa
2- she tries to find a job to have a L / B permit
3- if it is too hard to find in 3 months, marriage in france (before the visa expiration ) and return to SWZ
4- then she has some time to find ..

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Old 15.04.2009, 15:50
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1- she comes in switzerland with tourist visa
possible

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2- she tries to find a job to have a L / B permit
While here as a tourist? Technically illegal (I mean actually illegal but can be got away with sometimes)

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3- if it is too hard to find in 3 months, marriage in france (before the visa expiration ) and return to SWZ
Assuming you do the requisite paperwork but unlikely to be completed in the timeframe.

Being in Switzerland you will be aware of the job cuts left right and centre - this is making it more difficult for non-EU nationals to get or extend their permits. It sounds flippant, but marriage is your answer considering that you appear to be going that route anyway.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Thank you for your quick reply bob

I believe this process will be the best one, I will start now the request for having the wedding in France in july

Thanks again

ps : you are right , in a way it is flippant
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

This is a useful thread. THANKS.
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C PERMIT
SETTLEMENT PERMIT

Here endeth your quest...

Implications:

  • Holders can vote and be eligible on communal matters.
Does anyone have any information about C permit holders being able to vote on communal matters? I know this was discussed in the past Foreigners voting in canton Zurich but have never heard of anything getting passed in the Deutsch-Schweiz.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

[/LIST][LEFT]L PERMIT
[*]
Young workers qualified as health professionals and trained abroad who wish to develop their professional skills
[/LIST]
Third countries workers :
Renewable up to a maximum of 24 months


Hi I'm a newbie quite lost here...

I tried to use online translator to de-code my permit in German, and believe I got the above-mentioned L-permit, however, I am still confused over the exact terms ... (I'm not in the healthcare sector by the way...)

- "aufenthaltsdauer :12 monate befristet auf 24 monate" -
Does it mean it's a renewable permit every 12 months, with a maximum of 12-month employment within 24 months?
How would it affect my employment contract, which is of permanent nature without any pre-agreed tenure and expiry? Would I have problem getting a rental and mobile phone contract ?

- "diese zusicherung erlischt am: 20 Sep 2009"
why is the expiry in September 2009? I will join the company from end June, and should be based in Zurich for the medium term. However, I do have a stipulated 3-month probation period in my contract. Is it normal?

With a L-permit, am I deprived of any benefit under the social security system, eg, unemployment benefit?

In a event of a job change, would I need to obtain the Swiss authority's permission?

Any other issue I should be aware of?

THANKS SO MUCH !
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hi everyone,

I'm an American just finishing my first semester at the Universität Basel and just getting my visa in about 2 weeks (I've been waiting a while..) and I was wondering if it is possible for me to work while I'm going to school. I know EU students here in Switzerland are allowed to work 50%. Is that only if you are apart of the EU? I will be getting an L permit. I can't seem to find anything online no matter how hard I look.

Thanks for the help!

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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

If anyone is wondering, a student can work 15hrs per week when they're not in the EU and hold an L permit. EU students can work 20hrs per week.
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