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Old 20.09.2009, 07:51
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

First of all, even if you ask for a B permit, issual of one is depending on the quota fr this year.
Legends here would have already answered or do have an answer,

However in general what has happened to me is when mine went from L to B,
it took dot 8 weeks, well I didnt have to specifically ask,

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it took dot 8 weeks
Sorry for stupid question again, What does "dot 8 weeks" mean?
Is it .8 week = within a week ?
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Old 21.09.2009, 10:03
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Sorry for stupid question again, What does "dot 8 weeks" mean?
Is it .8 week = within a week ?
I suppose dot here means 'exactly'
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

I am a EFTA citizen from Canada working as an au pair in a suburb outside of Zurich. I have an L permit. Things have not been working out with my host family as it is a very stressful situation between the mother and father. I am looking to change host families but would like to move to a different canton. I am wondering if that is possible and how I could go about changing cantons.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Shorrick Mk2,

thanks a lot for systemizing all this information here! I have been trying to figure out some circumstances that seem not to have been discussed in this thread. My question is if I can select the place where I want to live that is different from the place where I will work (different cantons) PRIOR to the first entering to Switzerland. I have briefly checked the legal info (Bundesgesetz über die Ausländerinnen und Ausländer - thanks for the link) and according to paragraphs 36 and 37 it seems to be either impossible or somebody (my employer? or should I do it myself somehow?) must apply for a separate residence permit (Bewilligung). I am a non-EU citizen and seem to get my B permit soon (ZS code 1402) if that's important.

I would really appreacite some help on this case. From the papers I've got it seems my new address must(?) be in the same canton where I am going to work. I hope I am wrong...
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Old 03.10.2009, 10:40
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

I and my husband both work here on restricted B permits.
When we came here we were married, but we both got individual work permits, the company did not file us as married partners, so for the immigration I guess there is no linkage.

Is it possible now to get my permit linked to my husbands, so that if I quit working, I could still stay here as dependant ? Would this entail the whole procedure of marriage legalisation checks and all ?
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

I've been browsing through this forum for answers to my specific situation, but did not get a clear idea. Thus, herer's my question:

We are currently living in Geneva with a Permit C. I am a EU national, while my wife is a US citizen.

We are now thinking of buying a house in France due to the housing situation. Simply, yet difficult question: What changes? (in terms of Permit, tax, health insurance, social security.... etc)

Based on what I think I figured out so far, it doesn't seem to be too bad:
  • Visa/Work: I would need to change to a Permit G - as my wife is married to a EU citizen, she would have the right to a Permit G as well - and as we most likely will not work outside Geneva/Vaud, there should not be a disadvantage in terms of jobs - or changing jobs.
  • Social security: Unemployment/social security would be paid by France and equals the amount one would receive in Switzerland; retirement would come from Switzerland.
  • Tax: One would be taxed at the source again, which seems to be cheaper than paying "normal" taxes. As we are thinking of buiyng property, it appears that owning propoerty in France is cheaper tax-wise than owning property in Switzerland
  • Health insurance: It appears that the cross-border health insurance is cheaper than the Swiss one, even though the coverage is comparable.
Though where is the catch? It appears that a Permit G is actually more advantageous than a Permit C - actually, it seems as if there is no disadvantage to the Permit G, but why does everybody then aim for a Permit C? What have I overlooked - or where have I misinterpreted the information I've found? Anything else to consider?

Thanks in advance for your advise.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Tax at source is not necessarily cheaper than "normal" tax. Most certainly not cheaper when owning property. Not only that, but if you work in canton Vaud you won't be taxed at source if you have a crossborder permit (unlike Geneva).

On top of that I'm not quite sure French social security is on par with the Swiss system.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hi Shorrick,

just looked up some information regarding social security, given that this applies for Permit G holders. Writing it down here in case anybody else looks for this kind of information or can contribute further information.

Switzerland:
  • 80% of income if earnings are less than 3.797 CHF
  • 70% of income if it is more.
  • Maximum insured income is 8.900 CHF, which means that maximum unemployment benefits are 6.230 CHF
  • Maximum payment period is two years
  • Taxes and AHV apply
France:
  • 75% of gross earnings if gross monthly pay was less than EUR 1 020.40;
  • EUR 25.51 per day if gross monthly pay was between EUR 1 020.40 and EUR 1 117.57;
  • 40.4% of gross daily earnings + EUR 10.46 per day if gross monthly earnings were between EUR 1 117.57 and EUR 1 845.88;
  • 57.4% of of gross daily earnings if gross monthly earnings were between EUR 1 845.88 and EUR 10 728.
  • Maximum insured income is therefore 10.728 EUR, which means that the maximum benefits are 6.157 EUR
  • Not sure about whether this is then taxed and whether you've got to pay AHV in Switzerland or something similiar in France. My assumption is that it is fairly similar.
  • Maximum payment period is 23 month
Given an exchange rate of 1 EUR = 1.51 CHF, this means that for someone earning more than about 10.853 CHF (7.184 EUR), the French system is better as it has a higher cap - unless the French apply the same cap as the Swiss do for these specific cases....
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  • Not sure about whether this is then taxed and whether you've got to pay AHV in Switzerland or something similiar in France. My assumption is that it is fairly similar.
Fairly similar with the exception that French taxation is a bit higher than Swiss taxation ^^.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

As this information doesn't necessarily fit into this thread, I have openend a new one where I will update on all information I've received/found out for future reference - any contriobutions welcome: Relocating from Geneva to France
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

hi, good day shorrick, i have a question which is complicated to me. i am a wife of a carte legitimation holder here in geneva, my husband has been here since july 2007, but me and my two kids just recently on july,2009. i will start my work as a office maintenance in gland on november 1, 2009.my question is like this can i immediately convert my permit to c or b instead of the Ci permit which i understand goes along with the duration of the carte legitimation? how? can my employer help me with getting one? i am a non-EU citizen. thanks. hope you could answer my question.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hi guys,
Hope you can help me. I have a B Permit with "Aufenthalt zur Ausbildung" on teh bottom of the card. I guess that's because I was enrolled to a MBA program. But now I'm planning to defer my program and look for some jobs in Zurich.

Would anyone know if it is possible for me to look for employment (contract or perm)? Or do I have to apply for new permit? Or get potential employer to apply/change for me. If so, would it be easier or I have to go through the whole process (approx 3 months)?

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my question is like this can i immediately convert my permit to c or b instead of the Ci permit which i understand goes along with the duration of the carte legitimation?
No, you cannot.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hello everyone,

I am very happy to find out about this site, very helpful and very interesting.

I am 27 years old guy, from Syria, living in Dubai at the moment with my Swiss partner, we have been together for 4 years, I have visited Switzerland twice and the moment I arrived I just felled in Love with it.

After spending 6 years in Dubai, now we are looking for moving to Switzerland - Geneva, its not an easy thing for me, different culture and new country, I am not speaking French "yet".
on the other hand I am very excited about the move, as I really need new start and fresh life without the heat of Dubai.

we already have registered partnership since one year and now we have to process the applications , I am not yet sure what is the procedures, I hope someone can advice me.(to get visa and permit..etc)

another thing is being Arabic will that make it difficult for me to find job there? anyway i am planning to study there I already have masters in International Business, but I am planning to go for international relations. now I am working in German company in Dubai

I hope you can advice me regarding the visa and the job situation so that I can have better picture about it.

Thanks and kind regards
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

I have searched for the answer to my question but am having trouble understanding an answer if there has been one, so I have to ask.

I want to begin working in Switzerland in the Geneva area most likely.

I have a B permit to reside in Canton Vaud, it say Auslanderausweis and inside it says Activite lucrative autorisee.

My questions,
1. Is this all I need to work? Is there anything that I need to worry about with regard to working in Geneva when I live in Vaud?

2. When I go to fill out the information for employment I am being asked for my Tax Identification number. What is this and where would I find it or obtain it.

Thanks for any and all help in this matter,
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hello guys,

I just got my new plastic ausweis. But there's some difference from my old one.
- In the old one: Aufenthaltsbewilligung: B - Aufenthaltszweck: Verbleib beim Ehegatten.
- In the new one: Art des Titels: Aufenthaltsbewilligung (B) - Anmerkungen: Familliennachzug mit Erwerbstätigkeit.

So anyone please tell me what does it mean by "Familliennachzug mit Erwerbstätigkeit"? Does it mean I can work?
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Hello guys,

I just got my new plastic ausweis. But there's some difference from my old one.
- In the old one: Aufenthaltsbewilligung: B - Aufenthaltszweck: Verbleib beim Ehegatten.
- In the new one: Art des Titels: Aufenthaltsbewilligung (B) - Anmerkungen: Familliennachzug mit Erwerbstätigkeit.

So anyone please tell me what does it mean by "Familliennachzug mit Erwerbstätigkeit"? Does it mean I can work?
Yes, it does mean that you are now authorised for work in CH.

I also originally moved to Switzerland with my spouse (who was the one with the job offer and therefore, the work authorisation), and in the first year, I did not have the work authorisation. However, with the first renewal after 12 months, the status was changed to "Familliennachzug mit Erwerbstätigkeit" and I am now happily working :-)
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hello everyone-
I am new to the forum and I have read this thread exhaustively, but I am not sure my question(s) were answered.

Regarding B permits-
I am an US citizen and have a B permit issued in canton Zurich and will be moving to canton Aargau in a couple days (the WP was just issued this month). I will need to de-register and re-register, I know. And from what I understood from the kreisburo in Zurich, they will take my working permit and re-issue it in the new canton. Can I still travel (b/c I am planning to go back to the US for the holidays) with my D visa (Suisse + 1 transit schengen that was NOT stamped when I arrived-which the lady at the kreisburo noticed but said it was no problem)?

Regarding L permits-
Another US citizen friend of mine is having a very hard time finding an answer to his question, so I thought I would post it here--he has an L permit with a visa valid for 10 months. He has yet to receive his WP but is leaving the country (back to the US) at the beginning of December. He is supposed to return in February (he works only part-time here in Switzerland). Can he return? Does he have to re-apply for a visa every time he (wants to) enter Switzerland even though the one he has now will still be valid in Feb? Does he need to request the re-entry visa from the kreisburo (or wherever) before he leaves in order to return or is proof that his WP is in process enough?

Thank you in advance for your help. I very much appreciate it (and all the help I have found on this forum so far)!

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Yes, it does mean that you are now authorised for work in CH.

I also originally moved to Switzerland with my spouse (who was the one with the job offer and therefore, the work authorisation), and in the first year, I did not have the work authorisation. However, with the first renewal after 12 months, the status was changed to "Familliennachzug mit Erwerbstätigkeit" and I am now happily working :-)
So good for you guys! Congrats!
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