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02.04.2010, 20:45
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| | Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points. | Quote: | |  | | | Does the review anyways suggests that there could be an additional release of quotas.? | | | | | Yes. http://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/de/home/...09-12-041.html
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08.04.2010, 00:59
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After reading through 19 pages where some posters seemed to ask the same thing that I want to find out, I am still not sure about the definitive answer.
I can come to Switzerland on an annual B permit (PhD). I plan to bring my wife with me on a dependents B permit. We are both non-EU.
What I don't understand is whether she can work on this dependents permit or will a potential employer need to file for a B permit if she gets a job. If so, is this transition from dependents B to B subject to the quota?
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11.04.2010, 16:27
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| | Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
Can non-EU american get the G Permit with a long stay Visa D in France? Also a permanent contract in Switzerland.
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12.04.2010, 10:21
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| | Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points. | Quote: | |  | | | After reading through 19 pages where some posters seemed to ask the same thing that I want to find out, I am still not sure about the definitive answer.
I can come to Switzerland on an annual B permit (PhD). I plan to bring my wife with me on a dependents B permit. We are both non-EU.
What I don't understand is whether she can work on this dependents permit or will a potential employer need to file for a B permit if she gets a job. If so, is this transition from dependents B to B subject to the quota? | | | | | As far as I know a dependent B permit is as good as a "normal" B permit, meaning that the employer doesn't have to worry about paperwork. It's a requirement of the authorities that people should have permits, that's why employers file for them in the first place. But they can hire your wife with her B and when the year's over, the authorities will extend her permit for another year or more. The important thing is that it should be clear that you're staying longer ( I guess your studies take longer...) and your permit will be renewed, so that employers know what they're in for.
Since things are different in each canton and lots of things are decided on a subjective basis (cases evaluated individually), it's really difficult to say what permit one gets and what it will be worth. And employers vary as well, some take people without permits and do the paperwork, others don't consider anything inferior to a C.
I hope someone can give you more precise details. Anyway, I think it's worth trying to find something, even when people say it's impossible (personal exp.).
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14.04.2010, 10:10
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| | Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
Hi,
Im a nonEU, residing in Zurich canton for past 5 years.First two years on L permit and then now on B permit.My permit has a line
Bedingungen: Ein Stellenwechsel ist grundsaetzlich nicht moeglich(Guess it means Conditions: A changing jobs is not possible in principle).
Can i switch to local Swiss.,big MNC company?
I got first impression from new employer that it possible if new employer can provide valid reasons why we need to hire this person (due to highly skilled and non availability of resource in Swiss./ EU market).
Any thoughts willl the new permit be granted or transferred to new employer under assumption that old employer will not have any issues to release my permit.Thanks,Bob
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14.04.2010, 10:16
| | Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points. | Quote: | |  | | | hi,i have aquestion,by know i am residing in switzerland i ahve a c visa status though in 2 weeks my visa will be expired,does anybody have an idea how can i stay hear legaly????
hoper to hear from you soon nini | | | | | How about renewing your C permit ? That should do it.
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14.04.2010, 10:20
| | Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points. | Quote: | |  | | | Hi,
Im a nonEU, residing in Zurich canton for past 5 years.First two years on L permit and then now on B permit.My permit has a line
Bedingungen: Ein Stellenwechsel ist grundsaetzlich nicht moeglich(Guess it means Conditions: A changing jobs is not possible in principle).
Can i switch to local Swiss.,big MNC company?
I got first impression from new employer that it possible if new employer can provide valid reasons why we need to hire this person (due to highly skilled and non availability of resource in Swiss./ EU market).
Any thoughts willl the new permit be granted or transferred to new employer under assumption that old employer will not have any issues to release my permit.Thanks,Bob | | | | | Often these requests are granted where the employee, through no fault of their own, find their current job becomes unavailable and are lucky enough to find another one. In cases I know about a supporting letter from the current employer has been required. You won't know for sure until you try though.
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14.04.2010, 11:15
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Thanks Swissbob,will give a go and update how its goes.
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19.04.2010, 22:07
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| | Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points. | Quote: | |  | | | After reading through 19 pages where some posters seemed to ask the same thing that I want to find out, I am still not sure about the definitive answer.
I can come to Switzerland on an annual B permit (PhD). I plan to bring my wife with me on a dependents B permit. We are both non-EU.
What I don't understand is whether she can work on this dependents permit or will a potential employer need to file for a B permit if she gets a job. If so, is this transition from dependents B to B subject to the quota? | | | | | As far as I know (true for my PhD time, hopefully it changes now though I from time to time hear the same thing again and again), it is very very difficult to bring your partner (family) if you are a PhD student in the universities. Simply said by the immigration office that your salary is kind of too low to support a family.
However once you bring your wife here, she is able to work on a dependent permit of yours.
Good luck.
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19.04.2010, 22:31
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| | Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points. | Quote: | |  | | | As far as I know (true for my PhD time, hopefully it changes now though I from time to time hear the same thing again and again), it is very very difficult to bring your partner (family) if you are a PhD student in the universities. Simply said by the immigration office that your salary is kind of too low to support a family.
However once you bring your wife here, she is able to work on a dependent permit of yours.
Good luck. | | | | | As far as I know what the spouse "might" get is only a residence permit and not a work permit. The future employer would have to apply for a work permit which is usualy not a problem depending on where you are and what you do.
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20.04.2010, 09:30
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| | Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
Hi, all. We received our renewal papers for B visas yesterday. After reading all this stuff I was starting to get concerned. I have 2 questions: - Does receiving the paper for renewal mean you are more likely to get the renewal? IE, if they don't intend on renewing, would the paperwork still be sent? Or do we submit then just have to wait?
- In non-EU. Wifey and kids are EU (CZ). I pay the taxes and have the work permit, so it may be their permits are based on mine. Since they are EU should they get different permits/ausweises?
Thanks.
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23.04.2010, 14:41
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Extremely long, but definitely useful thread! Thanks to all for the valuable contributions.
I do have a situation here where I would be very appreciative on some advice. I do apologise in advance if some other post already covers my questions. If so, just point me to it
I'm from Australia, obviously non-EU (yet!), holding a "B" permit since 9.2001 ("L" permit since 9.2000). My current "B" permit expires in 9.2011. I understand, being a non-EU/non-US (RoW) citizen, that I can only apply for a "C" permit after 10 years. My questions are: - Can I apply for the "C" permit this year, 9.2010? That would be the 10th anniversary of our loooooong stay, starting with the "L" permit, but only the 9th year on the "B" permit.
- How difficult is the application and approval process? Does anyone have first hand experience? I heard that switching to "C" is not automatic for non-EUs and there are some red tapes in place.
- Is it really worth getting a "C" permit? In a few years, not exactly sure when, we plan to move back to Australia. Are "C" permit holders allowed to leave Switzerland with a potential to settle back later? i.e. definitely not a bad place to retire, albeit expensive...
Any constructive feedback is appreciated.
Thanks,
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28.05.2010, 16:27
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28.05.2010, 16:37
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| | Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points. | Quote: | |  | | | What does it mean "Drittstaatsangehörige"? EU or non-EU? I found this in the title of the attached form! | | | | | It means " Third world countries"...thats non-EU.
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22.06.2010, 11:42
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G'day,
Can someone enlighten me on what a 'D' permit is?? I hold an Australian passport, my wife and son hold German passports and 'L' permits for Switzerland. I work overseas every second month then return here for vacation to stay with them. When I returned this time through passport control, they told me I could only stay 36 days. After this I would need to leave Europe?? Something about 90days within 180 days.
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22.06.2010, 11:45
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Didn't quite finish above! I do not want to work here. Basically I just want to hangout for 6 months of the year in non consecutive months?? Any directions? Thanks
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22.06.2010, 16:34
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Hello,
I came to zurich on L permit - 4 months WP. Now the if the project got extended what is the option to extend or apply for new L Permit?
Do I have to stay out of swiss for 2 months and then apply new L permit?
Or is it possible anyway to extend/Re-apply from here?
Regards,
Sandy
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22.06.2010, 16:35
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| | Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
Your parent company can apply for extension, there is no need to leave the country. If accepted, you will get an extension of 8 months. | Quote: | |  | | | Hello,
I came to zurich on L permit - 4 months WP. Now the if the project got extended what is the option to extend or apply for new L Permit?
Do I have to stay out of swiss for 2 months and then apply new L permit?
Or is it possible anyway to extend/Re-apply from here?
Regards,
Sandy | | | | | | 
22.06.2010, 16:38
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| | Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points. | Quote: | |  | | | Your parent company can apply for extension, there is no need to leave the country. If accepted, you will get an extension of 8 months. | | | | |
I heard the 4 months WP can not be extend as it is not subject to Quota.
Not sure whats really legal and true information.
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22.06.2010, 16:39
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| | Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points. | Quote: | |  | | | I heard the 4 months WP can not be extend as it is not subject to Quota.
Not sure whats really legal and true information. | | | | | Its basically the company applying for L permit without you leaving the country. This has worked for a few collegues in the past. However the situation could be different now with the quota issues (even though the quota will be renewed from July)
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