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Old 09.03.2011, 08:23
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

You are correct, at the beginning of this forum Shorrick MK2 describes all the different permits (B, L. Ci etc..) a Non-EU would need to work in Swizterland. So you do not need a visa?

For me to join my husband beyond a tourist visa, I would also need a permit?
The Migration Office in Zurich, has advised we fill out the Gesuch um Einreisebewilligung (entry form) I fill out the top part, hubby fills out the bottom. then he waits for a letter indicating what will be needed. This means his a asking to bring me in under family reunification (if I am interpreting this correctly). He has been working at ETH since Jan and the contract state a renewal date of Oct 31 2011 (the contracts states minimum 1 year max 5).

I am trying to understand what I can do preparation for his application to bring me back, before I leave (what certificates I should leave here, what he might be asked to submit, and what I need to submit when back in Vancouver).

Swisspea advised me to put the location of where I want to pick up my permit on the Gesuch um Einreisebewilligung forum before hubby submits it here. This way I can come back on a tourist visa, and pick up my permit say in Milan (if it looks like it is going to take longer than 2 months to process). Any further advise you can offer is welcome.

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Old 09.03.2011, 08:35
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So you do not need a visa?
You do need a visa.

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This way I can come back on a tourist visa, and pick up my permit say in Milan (if it looks like it is going to take longer than 2 months to process).
This is a common approach and appears to work ok but you pick up the visa, not the permit. You collect the permit from the local town hall after registration.
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Yes, you have thr right to gainful employment - your employer must still do the necessary paperwork but since 01.01.2008 this is a formality for people in your situation.
Does anyone know where this info might be (gov. web site)?
It would be nice if someone can post a link related to it.
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Old 10.03.2011, 12:16
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Does anyone know where this info might be (gov. web site)?
It would be nice if someone can post a link related to it.
It would be even nicer if you searched the forum as this has been posted at least a gazillion times.

Alternatively, you could try this link.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hi,

There is lot of information in this thread and I want to thank all of the contributers for it.
But, I got not get a straight answer for question by reading all the pages, so posting my question here. Please reply

I am non EU national working in Switzerland on an L12 permit since September 2010. I want to know, Can I change my job in my canton or other canton with a L12 permit. If I cannot, can you please also tell me, what are permit related possibilities and ways for me and for a company who is ready to give me a job

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Old 11.03.2011, 09:30
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Hi,

There is lot of information in this thread and I want to thank all of the contributers for it.
But, I got not get a straight answer for question by reading all the pages, so posting my question here. Please reply

I am non EU national working in Switzerland on an L12 permit since September 2010. I want to know, Can I change my job in my canton or other canton with a L12 permit. If I cannot, can you please also tell me, what are permit related possibilities and ways for me and for a company who is ready to give me a job

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Assuming you mean a 12 month L permit?

No, as clearly mentioned in many posts you cannot change jobs with this permit type. There are no options for immediate employment with anothert employer - you must leave the country for a period first (was a year, may now be 6 months) and then the employer must go thropugh the normal process.
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Assuming you mean a 12 month L permit?

No, as clearly mentioned in many posts you cannot change jobs with this permit type. There are no options for immediate employment with anothert employer - you must leave the country for a period first (was a year, may now be 6 months) and then the employer must go thropugh the normal process.

Thanks Swiss job for your answer. Can you pls also give an answer to my following questions:
1) If I am working in Canton 1. Can new employer sponsor me a permit in Canton 2 without the need for me to leave the country.
2) If the new employer sponors a B permit for me. Do I still need to leave the country.

Will be looking forward to your comments. Thanks a lot in advance
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Sorry for mentioning ur profile name wrongly. I meant Swissbob...Sorry for the mistake.
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Old 13.03.2011, 07:06
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1) If I am working in Canton 1. Can new employer sponsor me a permit in Canton 2 without the need for me to leave the country.
The law is federal, not cantonal, so no.

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2) If the new employer sponors a B permit for me. Do I still need to leave the country.
Yes.
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The law is federal, not cantonal, so no.



Yes.
Thanks a lot Swissbob for ur responses.

One more query:

1) Can my new employer get my L12 transferred from my current employer to his name...

Is there any way I can get work permit to work for a new employer without leaving Switzerland......
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Old 15.03.2011, 07:01
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Thanks a lot Swissbob for ur responses.

One more query:

1) Can my new employer get my L12 transferred from my current employer to his name...

Is there any way I can get work permit to work for a new employer without leaving Switzerland......
No. You cannot change jobs on an L permit. The law is specifically implemented to prevent this.
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Old 18.03.2011, 00:06
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

I was looking around, as I'm sure I read this before, but I can't find it. Someone said that you have to leave Switzerland to actually receive the B visa in your passport then you have to enter Switzerland with it??

If this this is correct...


1) Does this mean having to leave the Shengen Zone? I guess I can't go to the Swiss Embassy in Germany and apply from there and then get it stamped at the border, because they are supposed to be open...

Assuming I get the work visa, I thought about coming back here next month before the visa is issued and set up, because going home for three months waiting around is wasting time and money. I can come back on a tourist visa, but I wanted to know if there was a way to get the B Visa without having to leave Switzerland again, which seems retarded.
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Old 18.03.2011, 08:00
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

If you are Non-EU you have to get a permission to enter Switzerland for work purposes. It's not the 'BI' permit, but an 'Entry Visa' that you need...

You shouldn't be here as a 'tourist' if your intention is to work....you are supposed to go through the process from your home country, and then legitimately enter *after* you have your permission.

It can take more than 3 months to get the work permit - has your potential employer already submitted all the correct papers to the authorities ?

And there's no guarantee your work permit will be a 'B' - it could quite likely be an "L" for the first two years...if you have a long-term, open, work contract.

The answers you seek are here on the thread - go back and read through and do your homework. Then speak to the swiss consulate general in your home country...

You can go to a Swiss consulate general outside Switzerland for the entry Visa, but you can't overstay your 3 months in Shengen, or anywhere else whilst you are waiting around...
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If you are Non-EU you have to get a permission to enter Switzerland for work purposes. It's not the 'BI' permit, but an 'Entry Visa' that you need...

You shouldn't be here as a 'tourist' if your intention is to work....you are supposed to go through the process from your home country, and then legitimately enter *after* you have your permission.

It can take more than 3 months to get the work permit - has your potential employer already submitted all the correct papers to the authorities ?

And there's no guarantee your work permit will be a 'B' - it could quite likely be an "L" for the first two years...if you have a long-term, open, work contract.

The answers you seek are here on the thread - go back and read through and do your homework. Then speak to the swiss consulate general in your home country...

You can go to a Swiss consulate general outside Switzerland for the entry Visa, but you can't overstay your 3 months in Shengen, or anywhere else whilst you are waiting around...
I called the Federal Office for Migration just now.

They told me that I have to receive the work permit outisde of Switzerland. They also told me that the employer, when sending in the paperwork, can indiccate which Swiss embassy I can pick it up at.

I asked the person I was talking to if I can receive the visa at the Swiss Embassy in Germany or Austria and then come back into Switzerland and get it stamped (or whatever) at the border, since there are still people at the borders. The person did not know the answer to that. She said..."I don't know what they do..."

I am leaving Switzerland tomorrow, but I planned to come back in 6 weeks, regardless if the visa is approved or not I will likely marry a Swiss citizen. Legally I can leave Switzerland tomorrow, and come back in 6 weeks, and stay 3 more months (I've already been here 87 days and my understanding is that I can come back for another 3 month period).

I guess I want to know if I can come back here and set up things, then drive up to Berlin (or wherever) and get the work permit, then just drive back into Switzerland and get it stamped or verified at the border, before entering Switzerland.
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Old 18.03.2011, 16:12
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I called the Federal Office for Migration just now.

They told me that I have to receive the work permit outisde of Switzerland. They also told me that the employer, when sending in the paperwork, can indiccate which Swiss embassy I can pick it up at.
Believe they meant the visa - the permit you pick up from your local town hall after you arrive.

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I asked the person I was talking to if I can receive the visa at the Swiss Embassy in Germany or Austria and then come back into Switzerland and get it stamped (or whatever) at the border, since there are still people at the borders. The person did not know the answer to that. She said..."I don't know what they do..."
You can do this - it is quite common.


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I am leaving Switzerland tomorrow, but I planned to come back in 6 weeks, regardless if the visa is approved or not I will likely marry a Swiss citizen. Legally I can leave Switzerland tomorrow, and come back in 6 weeks, and stay 3 more months (I've already been here 87 days and my understanding is that I can come back for another 3 month period).
Not quite. It's 90 days in a 180 day period so you'd have to be out 3 months before coming back for another 3 months.

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I guess I want to know if I can come back here and set up things, then drive up to Berlin (or wherever) and get the work permit, then just drive back into Switzerland and get it stamped or verified at the border, before entering Switzerland.
Shouldn't be a problem - used to be tricky but it's become common practice. It's the visa you'll be picking up - if you can't get it stamped at the border because noone is there just explain that to the local town hall - if they even ask about it.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Thanks a lot for your help. :-)

One more Question Bob...if my fiancee agrees to "sponsor me" can I come back? I believe she has to fill out some form agreeing to support me at the Gemeinde office?
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Thanks a lot for your help. :-)

One more Question Bob...if my fiancee agrees to "sponsor me" can I come back? I believe she has to fill out some form agreeing to support me at the Gemeinde office?

If not, I guess I can fly into Germany and come across the border (we have never been stopped before), I have "2 days left" before 90 days, so if I'm caught, I will just say I'm staying at a hotel in Konstanz.
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If not, I guess I can fly into Germany and come across the border (we have never been stopped before), I have "2 days left" before 90 days, so if I'm caught, I will just say I'm staying at a hotel in Konstanz.
90 days in the Shengen zone I'm afraid so that wouldn't work.
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90 days in the Shengen zone I'm afraid so that wouldn't work.

Gottverdammt nochmal...

Okay, just wait on the visa then, if not, get married...one way or another I'm going to bless Switzerland again with my being. "The Man" will not keep me down.
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Urgent L Permit Question:

Hi,

I have been working as a teacher at a private school in Switzerland for 22 consecutive months and was recently fired (laid off) because the school is restructuring and cutting some jobs to save money in the current economy.

I am a Non-EU person and am a resident of the USA, and living in Lausanne in the canton of Vaud in the French speaking part. I submitted all the paperwork for my unemployment (Chomage) assistance and was told that I would be okay and that the canton would extend my permit for me and that my paperwork was okay.

Now, I have just received a letter from the Canton asking if I have tried applying for a B permit. I thought I had to have a contract with a company to apply for a new permit. My current L permit expires in the middle of August of this year.

Am I allowed to apply for a B permit without a contract while receiving chomage, do I have to do this? And should I do this, and I allowed to do apply for my own permit? Because I had thought the Canton would assist with this?

Any help and assistance would be greatly appreciated!

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