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Old 05.05.2011, 14:14
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hello everyone,
May be you can help me with my question!

I am Indian, employed in EU country, want to shift to Switzerland. My wife is employed in Switz with permit B (Auffenthaltstitel).
I have offer from one Swiss company, but I understood from HR that it might be tricky to get permit for me to work in Switzerland (as I'm not from EU).
I would like to know if I can get permit to work based on the permit B of my wife?
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Old 05.05.2011, 14:20
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Hello everyone,
May be you can help me with my question!

I am Indian, employed in EU country, want to shift to Switzerland. My wife is employed in Switz with permit B (Auffenthaltstitel).
I have offer from one Swiss company, but I understood from HR that it might be tricky to get permit for me to work in Switzerland (as I'm not from EU).
I would like to know if I can get permit to work based on the permit B of my wife?
Thank you in advance,
Cheers,
KD
Assuming your wife is on an open contract then yes you can.

The steps are to apply to join your wife under the family reunification rules as you'r wife's dependant. Once here you have the right to work - the employer will still need to do a little paperwork but the result is more or less guaranteed.
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Old 05.05.2011, 14:33
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Thanks Swissbob.

Normally the HR of company (should) know about these rules. But I think in my case I need to take the lead and point out some ways to get myself the required permit to work.
The HR has asked ID + permit B copy of wife, with my ID..Is there any additional (specific) information I should provide to HR so that they know clearly what to do.
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Old 17.05.2011, 12:22
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hello Guys,

I need some advice.

I(non-EU) will moving to swiss at the end of this month along with my wife(EU-8 citizen). She will not be looking for job but she will be styudying German for 1st 12 months. I assume that we will be given a L permit. And by going through this form it seems like one needs B permit to work in Swiss.

My question is am i eligible to look for an employment on L permit?

Is it possible for my wife to get B permit solely based on being student?

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Old 17.05.2011, 13:06
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Hello Guys,

I need some advice.

I(non-EU) will moving to swiss at the end of this month along with my wife(EU-8 citizen). She will not be looking for job but she will be styudying German for 1st 12 months. I assume that we will be given a L permit. And by going through this form it seems like one needs B permit to work in Swiss.

My question is am i eligible to look for an employment on L permit?

Is it possible for my wife to get B permit solely based on being student?

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You get the same permit as your wife. She will most likely get a student B permit which will get you a B permit but without the right to work. She will need to show that she can support you.
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Old 17.05.2011, 13:38
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You get the same permit as your wife. She will most likely get a student B permit which will get you a B permit but without the right to work. She will need to show that she can support you.
How about if she says she will be seeking for F/T employment then what permit she gets? i guess L Permit.

Does that permit allows me to seek employment?
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Old 17.05.2011, 14:18
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How about if she says she will be seeking for F/T employment then what permit she gets? i guess L Permit.

Does that permit allows me to seek employment?
6 month B permit (3 month plus renewable for 3 months). You will not have the right to work unless she gets a permanent job first.
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Old 17.05.2011, 15:26
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6 month B permit (3 month plus renewable for 3 months). You will not have the right to work unless she gets a permanent job first.
thanks bob.
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Old 17.05.2011, 16:46
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6 month B permit (3 month plus renewable for 3 months). You will not have the right to work unless she gets a permanent job first.
Swissbob - what happens if she finds some permanent contract and then leaves it after i get B permit?
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Old 17.05.2011, 17:58
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Swissbob - what happens if she finds some permanent contract and then leaves it after i get B permit?
You mean attempt to circumvent the immigration rules?
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Old 18.05.2011, 00:44
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You mean attempt to circumvent the immigration rules?
In a way yes because i want her to finish her degree and also i have to find some employment to support us.

Its just matter of couple of years after that she will be working full time and hence we won't face any problems.
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Old 08.06.2011, 00:45
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Let's try this scenario. We are married, both non-EU. My wife is an employee of a Swiss-based global company in the US. They are offering a position in CH for 1 year. I will be going with her. I am a computer consultant currently working for my own US company in the US, paid by another US company which is paid by the same company from CH that my wife is an employee of. So I am already employed and actually could solely work from our apartment there.

What should be occurring here regarding permits? I guess she would get an annual B permit. What would I be getting by virtue of being her spouse? What do I need to have? Who should be applying for my permits?
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hi,
I am an Indian and my case is smiliar to Kedar in the post above, reversed in terms of husband being on B-permit and wife looking for job.
As I understand from swissbob's reply, she would be allowed to work if I get B-permit, which is what my employer told me I'll get. But a friend of mine told me that there have been some rule-changes 2-3 months back and probably its not anymore allowed. Can anybody throw some light on that? Can anybody point to links to official statement on this thing on bfm.ch website or ch.ch?
I tried but the final details, like pdf files are only in Deutsche/Italian/French.
Thanks for help.
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Old 02.07.2011, 10:02
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But a friend of mine told me that there have been some rule-changes 2-3 months back and probably its not anymore allowed.
There have been no such rule changes.
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Old 06.07.2011, 07:56
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

hi, i've been trying to look up info about changing job w a B permit and it's all pretty confusing. i hope that someone could help me make it more clear.

i came to Switzerland last August for a postdoc at the University of Zurich with a 2-year contract that could be extended. i got a B permit that needs to be renewed every year. In June, i quit my job as i got offer a job in a consulting firm (also in Zurich). the new job does not start until October and i am planning on leaving Switzerland during the gap time. my new employer applied for a prolongation of my B-permit but that was turned down by the labor department (i don't know the German name for this). now they have to reapply for a new short-term permit (L-permit). in this case, my questions are:

-is it because i was at my old job for less than 13 months (as an previous post stated that my transfer was rejected?

-do i need to de-register and leave Switzerland until the new permit is approved?

-what are my chances of getting the new permit approved? providing that this time it is an L instead of a B like what i have now.

thanks for you helps!!!

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Old 06.07.2011, 09:00
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-is it because i was at my old job for less than 13 months (as an previous post stated that my transfer was rejected?
Unfortunately mind reading isn't an EF skill - have you tried asking why it was turned down?

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-do i need to de-register and leave Switzerland until the new permit is approved?
Maybe. Again, ask the authorities.

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-what are my chances of getting the new permit approved? providing that this time it is an L instead of a B like what i have now.
This is a pure guess but I reckon you have little chance due to the refusal above - something has rung alarm bells in the system- A short term permit is just that and the previous application is an obvious pointer that your intentions are different.
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Old 09.08.2011, 11:37
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Seeking advice from the EFS gods that frequent this thread! Thanks (for what it's worth) for all of the useful information in the 3+ years' worth of info.

I've just officially moved to Switzerland (Vaud canton) a couple weeks back in order to live with my partner of 3 years and apply for entry-level jobs and/or intern positions in the fields of international development and the environment. Nothing has come to fruition as of yet, but my qualifications and language skills will hopefully distinguish me as a desirable non-EU citizen (US/CAN citizenship).

I've been trying to learn the system as best I can so that I appear relatively knowledgeable in the event that I soon find myself being interviewed. A few things seem clear, but please correct me if I'm misunderstood:

1. There is no permit type that I can apply for as a jobseeker. Therefore, I am presently limited to my 3 months as a tourist to find something. True?

2. It has been said that it is up to the employer to apply for a work permit, whether it be L- or B-type. Is there anything I can do in preparation? Documents in hand, for e.g.?

3. I've read that obtaining the B-type permit can take quite some time. Perhaps I missed this in the thread, but is the L-type generally quicker?

4. In any case, I'm anticipating that I may have to return to the US to deal with the application process from there. Any way around this? Someone earlier in this thread seemed to have had luck expediting this process from the normal 6-8 weeks down to one, what steps should I look into taking to make my experience this quick?

=> Any general recommendations that people may have for my particular (though not so unique) situation will be greatly appreciated. Also, a swift kick toward any useful or more related threads will merit my subservient bow.


Hello again!

I wanted to ask a couple follow-up questions related to my first post (above), now that I have more concrete details to work with...

I was accepted to work for 4 months as an unpaid intern for a small NGO in Geneva (submitted on 19 June 2011). Contrary to popular belief, it was me who had to initiate the permit process, firstly by registering as a resident in my local commune and secondly by submitting to that same office the necessary documents which would be sent for review by the Office de la Population in Geneva.

Afterwards, I was told to wait for a letter which would summon me to get my biometrics taken (and submit more documents, I assume). Almost two months later, I am still waiting and my tourist visa is about to expire on 2 September.

After some phone calls, I really do not know what the hell is going on I knew it would not be easy to obtain a work permit from inside Switzerland, but I thought it would be possible so I decided to take the risk (perhaps therein lies my error of overconfidence). My employer also agreed that it should be feasible.

Apparently, it could still take up to three months yet it would be illegal for me to remain in the country (or Schengen even) beyond 90 days. If I do return home to my non-EU country, then I need to reinitiate the permit process from square one... and wait.

All this in order to not be paid to work

Because everyone was so helpful before (though I couldn't properly thank them at that time), I am reaching out again for any thoughts or ideas or experiences about how best to proceed.

Best,
EMPLOY ME!
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Old 09.08.2011, 12:09
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I wanted to ask a couple follow-up questions related to my first post (above), now that I have more concrete details to work with...

I was accepted to work for 4 months as an unpaid intern for a small NGO in Geneva (submitted on 19 June 2011). Contrary to popular law.....
Fixed that for you .

Permits for NGO's are a bit different. Permits for interns are a bit different. However, the employer is responsible for the process in all cases for non-EU citizens.
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Then why am I the one doing everything?
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Old 09.08.2011, 12:14
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Then why am I the one doing everything?
Shouldn't you be asking your employer that question?
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