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Old 14.02.2012, 17:31
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Please help!

I would appreciate if any experienced member at EF could help with the following matter (SHORRICK???). I've read all the bullet points related to NON-EU visas and spent quite some time in EF, but... could not find a similar case.

My background is as follows:
* I'm non-EU
* Got a job offer in Zurich and the company will apply for a work permit, which will be L or B with some luck (I have a PhD from ETH, salary is adequate, the contract is open ended, I have a student B permit starting from September 2008).

** My wife is non-EU
** Used to have a student B-permit which was automatically changed by the Swiss authorities to Family Reunion B-permit when we got married.
** Her B-permit was issued in September 2008, and she used to have it continuously until January 2012.
** In January 2012 she left Switzerland to our home country due to pregnancy.
** She is registered officially as a student at the University of Zurich (on maternity leave; yes, this status is official and in fact exists).


I would like to bring my wife and child to Switzerland starting from September 2012. She would also like to continue her studies at the University of Zurich. I thought about one of the following two options:

(1) She will apply for a student visa in our home country and we will apply for a Family Reunion Visa for our child in our home country.
(2) We will apply for a Family Reunion Visa for my wife and the child.

What do you think is more reasonable to do? Or, are there any other viable ideas in this regard?
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

I don't see what you find so dissimilar in your case :-)

If you get your permit (whichever category) - apply for family reunion once ready.

No need to über complicate simple things :-)
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Old 14.02.2012, 21:32
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Shorrick, thank you very much for your help. There are queries arising if my wife will indeed apply for a Reunion Visa:

1. In case that she gets an L permit (this is most likely the case in a family reunion since I will probably end up with an L permit), will she be allowed to continue studying at the university?

2. Should I ask my potential employer to include my wife in the application of my work permit? Or, should I first get the work permit, and only then she can apply for a family reunion visa at the embassy in our home country?

Many thanks in advance.

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I don't see what you find so dissimilar in your case :-)

If you get your permit (whichever category) - apply for family reunion once ready.

No need to über complicate simple things :-)
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Shorrick, thank you very much for your help. There are queries arising if my wife will indeed apply for a Reunion Visa:

1. In case that she gets an L permit (this is most likely the case in a family reunion since I will probably end up with an L permit), will she be allowed to continue studying at the university?
Why would she not be allowed? Once she gets the residence permit she can do whatever she pleases (except, of course, work, if you get the L).

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You can but they won't do it as that is only done on initial applications that are picked up abroad... which is not your case as you're already here.
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Old 14.02.2012, 22:17
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Thanks Shorrick, your answer help a lot! I was not aware that it is possible to study at a Swiss University with an L permit.


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Why would she not be allowed? Once she gets the residence permit she can do whatever she pleases (except, of course, work, if you get the L).



You can but they won't do it as that is only done on initial applications that are picked up abroad... which is not your case as you're already here.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

I've been combing through these posts to see if I will be able to work on my wife's L-permit (364 days; we arrive in August). I teach English in-company (and privately) and haven't been able to get a clear answer from anyone (even potential employers) if I will allowed to do this in Switzerland while we're on L residence permits.

So, should I take your response here to be a "no" to my question?
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

And thanks for sharing your experience.
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Old 14.05.2012, 19:40
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

sorry have no idea about that.

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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hello Friends, I am a Non-EU and have a long term B permit which can be renewed every year. I work for 80 percent (4 days) now for a company. They are OK if I work for remaining 20 percent for another company.

1) With this kind of permit am I eligible to work for another company for 20 percent?

1.1) I am also looking for some contracting work. Is that an option? If yes do I have any restriction for maximum work hours (Am I allowed to work only 8.24 hours (1 day) per week since I cant work more than 42 hours per week?)

Please let me know if you have any idea about it. Thanks.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hi there , I am new to this Forum , I just got married to a swiss in denmark , I am having a shengen visa valid for the next three months , we both came back to swiss together can you advice me in the best way to go about registering the marriage here in swiss as we do not have much ideas either, then what permit will i get at first , will i be able to work here in Swiss after this permit? will appreciate your response.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hi,

I recently got an offer from Swiss pharma company. I am a non-EU and currently living in UK. My UK visa is expired and I am in the process of getting extension. The future company has started the application for work permit. I expect the processing time around 6-8 weeks.

Do I need to apply for a visa in swiss embassy in london to travel CH?
Do I need a valid UK visa for getting CH visa?
Can I travel to CH with the job offer, CH work permit and a valid passport?

Thanks for your comments
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Old 10.06.2013, 09:36
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

You most probably need a valid visa or permit in the UK to get the visa there I think. Otherwise you should apply in your home country.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hi,

I have another question since I could not find the answer in EF. I am a non EU B permit owner with a note on his Auslaenderausweiss as "B Ohne Erwerb" -Nicht Erwerbstätigkeit in der Schweiz. (I am working in Basel Airport)

My wife had a residence permit as B permit "Familiennachtzug Ohne Erwerbstätigkeit" and she found a job in Switzerland. Then, they converted her residence permit as "B permit Familiennachtzug Mit Erwerbstätigkeit Analog Ehemann". Both of us are non-EU and in case I lose my job, we do not know if I will be able to stay in Switzerland as dependent to her permit or if both of us would have to leave Switzerland?
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Old 06.07.2013, 12:11
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Hi,

I have another question since I could not find the answer in EF. I am a non EU B permit owner with a note on his Auslaenderausweiss as "B Ohne Erwerb" -Nicht Erwerbstätigkeit in der Schweiz. (I am working in Basel Airport)

My wife had a residence permit as B permit "Familiennachtzug Ohne Erwerbstätigkeit" and she found a job in Switzerland. Then, they converted her residence permit as "B permit Familiennachtzug Mit Erwerbstätigkeit Analog Ehemann". Both of us are non-EU and in case I lose my job, we do not know if I will be able to stay in Switzerland as dependent to her permit or if both of us would have to leave Switzerland?
So your permit specifically says you are not allowed to work...but you are working anyway??
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So your permit specifically says you are not allowed to work...but you are working anyway??
I had the same question to AfM when I first received the permit. They accept Basel EuroAirport as out of Switzerland. So, they give you permit to stay in Switzerland if you have enough income. You pay all of your taxes to Switzerland and in the end you are not allowed to use social benefit such as unemployment pay. All non-EU working at Basel Airport is in same situation. It looks HR knew this but did not tell us. And everybody says if we knew we would not come. If you come once, it is also not so easy to go back to your country and start your life again from zero.
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Hi,

I have another question since I could not find the answer in EF. I am a non EU B permit owner with a note on his Auslaenderausweiss as "B Ohne Erwerb" -Nicht Erwerbstätigkeit in der Schweiz. (I am working in Basel Airport)

My wife had a residence permit as B permit "Familiennachtzug Ohne Erwerbstätigkeit" and she found a job in Switzerland. Then, they converted her residence permit as "B permit Familiennachtzug Mit Erwerbstätigkeit Analog Ehemann".
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Interesting case, due to the fact that the airport is on French territory.


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My wife had a residence permit as B permit "Familiennachtzug Ohne Erwerbstätigkeit" and she found a job in Switzerland. Then, they converted her residence permit as "B permit Familiennachtzug Mit Erwerbstätigkeit Analog Ehemann". Both of us are non-EU and in case I lose my job, we do not know if I will be able to stay in Switzerland as dependent to her permit or if both of us would have to leave Switzerland?
But this is common with all other non-EU passport holders and Familiennachzug. Not linked to the fact that the airport is in France.



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You pay all of your taxes to Switzerland and in the end you are not allowed to use social benefit such as unemployment pay. All non-EU working at Basel Airport is in same situation. It looks HR knew this but did not tell us. And everybody says if we knew we would not come. If you come once, it is also not so easy to go back to your country and start your life again from zero.
Sounds tricky, but actually I don't know if this would be different from a situation where a non-EU works inside Switzerland with an employer-linked permit.
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Interesting case, due to the fact that the airport is on French territory.



But this is common with all other non-EU passport holders and Familiennachzug. Not linked to the fact that the airport is in France.




Sounds tricky, but actually I don't know if this would be different from a situation where a non-EU works inside Switzerland with an employer-linked permit.
I do not know. This is my question actually. Maybe Shorrick knows.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Dear all

Am in an urgent situation now and would really appreciate some help.
Trawled through several threads of this forum for a few days to find answers and have drawn some (hopefully correct) assumptions about my case - just need the experts here to advise if I am right.

I am non-EU, on an 'L' permit for 2 years and am deciding whether or not to extend another 2 years with my company. This decision will solely be based on whether my husband (also non-EU) will be entitled to work in Switzerland henceforth. My HR has told me that if I do extend, I will be given a 'B' permit for 2 years (hence a restricted permit). They have no clue about dependent passes (never done it before), and seem reluctant to find out more for me. Hence I have been doing my own research.

With that, can I assume that:

- My restricted B permit is tied to my canton and employer and I will not be able to change employers for the next 2 years.

- From the law passed 1.1.2008, my husband is entitled to get a dependent B pass, which MAY give him authorisation to work

- In the event that his pass states that he does not have authorisation to work, he is still legally entitled to work, and just requires the hiring company to apply for his work permit. Also, when the hiring company applies for his work permit, they do not need to go through the whole process of advertising for X months, proving that a Swiss/EU cant do the job etc.

- My husband will only be able to apply for jobs in the same canton as me and not be able to work in other cantons.

Would really, really appreciate some advice as if my husband is not able to work in Switzerland, I will not be extending my stay here and going back home instead.

Thank you so much!
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Dear all

Am in an urgent situation now and would really appreciate some help.
Trawled through several threads of this forum for a few days to find answers and have drawn some (hopefully correct) assumptions about my case - just need the experts here to advise if I am right.

I am non-EU, on an 'L' permit for 2 years and am deciding whether or not to extend another 2 years with my company. This decision will solely be based on whether my husband (also non-EU) will be entitled to work in Switzerland henceforth. My HR has told me that if I do extend, I will be given a 'B' permit for 2 years (hence a restricted permit). They have no clue about dependent passes (never done it before), and seem reluctant to find out more for me. Hence I have been doing my own research.

With that, can I assume that:

- My restricted B permit is tied to my canton and employer and I will not be able to change employers for the next 2 years.

- From the law passed 1.1.2008, my husband is entitled to get a dependent B pass, which MAY give him authorisation to work

- In the event that his pass states that he does not have authorisation to work, he is still legally entitled to work, and just requires the hiring company to apply for his work permit. Also, when the hiring company applies for his work permit, they do not need to go through the whole process of advertising for X months, proving that a Swiss/EU cant do the job etc.

- My husband will only be able to apply for jobs in the same canton as me and not be able to work in other cantons.

Would really, really appreciate some advice as if my husband is not able to work in Switzerland, I will not be extending my stay here and going back home instead.

Thank you so much!
Yes, he would be able to work, the law changed in 2008 so that all dependents on B permits have the right whether they're EU or non-EU. And yes, he can work anywhere in Switzerland, he's not restricted to one canton:

"Art. 46 Employment of spouses and children
The spouse and children of a Swiss national or of a person with a permanent residence permit or a residence permit (Art. 42-44) may work on a salaried or self-employed basis anywhere in Switzerland."

I'd double check with the migration office that you would definitely get a B permit before making any final decisions. There are some people here on the forum who've had their L permits extended for up to 3/4 years.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Thank you for your reply Medea Fleecestealer! I guess I may accept the contract extension first and pray hard that I get my 'B' permit and not be extended on another 'L'. My fellow non-EU colleague just completed her 2 years 'L' in August and has successfully converted to a 'B' in just a matter of weeks. Crossing fingers!
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