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Old 29.10.2013, 08:27
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

I think there's a good chance you'd get a B. It's the norm after two years, it's just that some people do find themselves getting extended L's instead. I guess it really depends on the canton and the particular job itself.

Also just bear in mind how easy or not it would be for your husband to get a job here before deciding. I'm thinking along the lines of if he's in a specialised field which isn't really in demand here, it may be difficult to find something. Not much call for deep sea divers here for example.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Wow guys, been reading this thread over the last few days...and its crazy how restricted we are as south africans,

its been a life long dream for me to live in Zurich and now I have a degree...someone to sponsor me with accom and a job in Zurich, but still I find it difficult to find a suitable visa to apply for. Does anyone have any knowledge on the 'trainee' visa?

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm...programme.html

I am a 25 year old South African male (non-EU). Recently Graduated with a Bcomm marketing and management (level 6 degree) and willing to give my left #@# to work in Zurich.

Any input or advice would be much appreciated
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Old 12.12.2013, 15:38
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

You say you already have a job lined up in Zurich. Is this as a trainee or not and for how long? The instructions on what to do to apply for a permit (not visa) are here:

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/dam...ires-CHE-e.pdf

As far as I know for any stay over 90 days you need a Type D long term visa. This is not your permit, you only get your visa once your permit has been approved, but you need to apply for the visa at the Swiss embassy/consulate at the same time as you send in your permit application. The visa allows you entry into the country, the permit is visible proof of your right to live/work/study here.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

The Job will be on a 1 year basis - thank you for this info, I was not aware of the permit/visa difference!

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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Then you'll need copies of the contract from your prospective employer plus an application form and you send them to the address given on the link I provided (down on the last page). You'll also need to apply for your visa at the Swiss embassy/consulate in South Africa.

You can find the application form and other stuff on the right-hand side of the page you linked to.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

But how would I prove that no-one in EU can do the Job?

Thank you for your help though. Appreciate you taking the time to respond
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

If it's a trainee job I don't think that matters according to your link. If you're talking a "proper" job, then it's something totally different. In that case the application for the permit has to be done by the employer, not you. It's up to them to prove to the authorities that they've done their best to find a Swiss, EU national or someone else already living here who has a valid work permit.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

I am a non-EU Citizen married to another non-EU. I have been living in Switzerland for over 5 years and my wife is here as dependent family member for over 4 years. My work contract has ended as of end of May 2014, and my residence permit is expiring in September. By luck, I found another job in another Canton starting just 2 days before the expiry date of my residence permit, if I can get the work permit. My question would be about the residence permit renewal application which has to be done minimum 2 weeks before the expiry date. In case I cannot get the Work Permit in my hand until this due time, is there any possibility to apply for the renewal only with the Contract I had signed. I have already asked this question to three different Officials and the answers in return were by order I do not know, No and Yes. Is there anyone in the Forum who had similar experience or has an idea?
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Old 03.08.2014, 10:47
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I am a non-EU Citizen married to another non-EU. I have been living in Switzerland for over 5 years and my wife is here as dependent family member for over 4 years. My work contract has ended as of end of May 2014, and my residence permit is expiring in September. By luck, I found another job in another Canton starting just 2 days before the expiry date of my residence permit, if I can get the work permit. My question would be about the residence permit renewal application which has to be done minimum 2 weeks before the expiry date. In case I cannot get the Work Permit in my hand until this due time, is there any possibility to apply for the renewal only with the Contract I had signed. I have already asked this question to three different Officials and the answers in return were by order I do not know, No and Yes. Is there anyone in the Forum who had similar experience or has an idea?
Is your permit tied to your previous employer? If so, then your residency rights may have ended when your work rights did, no matter how long your permit has left on it. Or has RAV taken over the permit for the time being?

Is the new application for the permit being processed now? If so, then until you get a result on that you're okay to stay. If your previous contract has ended I can't see how you could apply for a renewal with it as part of the conditions for renewal are that you're employed which clearly you aren't.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

My work permit was not tied to my previous employer. I actually had B Ohne Erwerb since my workplace was at Basel Euro Airport. Therefore, I am also not entitled to get unemployment money from RAV. As soon I had enough money to support me, I was allowed to stay in Switzerland with no social support. It is an extraordinary situation.

My wife was dependent to me, but lately she got independent work permit. It looks that now I will have dependent residence permit until I get my work permit.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

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Very useful thread, thanks.

Few quick questions that I have not been able to obtain answers for. I'm non-EU, been here for 3+ years working for the same company on a B permit. I'm considering moving into contracting.

  • I'm quite sure I fall into the first category but how can I know for sure? My permit says Aufenthaltsbewilligung B mit Erwerbstatigkeit; Is that good enough? I've been told by HR and others that I can freely switch jobs. I renew my B permit every year, and my HR department rubber stamps it.
  • If I switch jobs, does the new company have to do anything special, such as justify me having a permit? Do I have to do anything special?
  • My permit says Selbst. Erwerbstatigkeit is bewilligungspflichtig (self employment subject to approval) on the back of the card. What exactly is self-employment? Is IT contracting considered self employment? According to the agency, I work for them just as I work for my current employer.
  • Risks of becoming a contractor under my situation? What happens if I find myself between contracts during the month that my B permit comes up for renewal?
  • Would I be eligible for RAV should I find myself unemployed for any length of time?
Thanks for the help.
anybody please give any answers to these questions? these are my concern as well.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

I have a question regarding 15 hours/week work permit for students(I am a non-EU). The Amt für Wirtschaft und Arbeit of Zurich told me that as for the contract, "Salaries will be checked. The salary level depends on the function etc.". What does this mean - are there any (rough) reference tables of what an average expected salary might be, etc? Also, who had any experience obtaining this permit, how long does it take? I previously thought that 15hrs permit is more of a formality, now not so sure about it. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Hello.
I need help,so I have a few questions.
My husband is a EU citizen,but I am not.
He have his B viza for one year (he is here for two months). I want to know can I get viza because I am his wife?
I'm here 60 days,soon my 90 days will be over.
I heard a lot of stories how I can only get viza when he have L viza.
I just want to know can I go somewere to ask if they can allow me to stay longer,if he needs to get L viza or we can apply for my viza because he have his working viza?
(I'm sorry if my English is bad)
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Old 27.09.2014, 20:07
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Hello.
I need help,so I have a few questions.
My husband is a EU citizen,but I am not.
He have his B viza for one year (he is here for two months). I want to know can I get viza because I am his wife?
I'm here 60 days,soon my 90 days will be over.
I heard a lot of stories how I can only get viza when he have L viza.
I just want to know can I go somewere to ask if they can allow me to stay longer,if he needs to get L viza or we can apply for my viza because he have his working viza?
(I'm sorry if my English is bad)
What he needs to do is apply for family reunification for you through the gemeinde where he's living to get you a dependent's permit. At the same time, back in your home country (sorry, but you'll need to go back there until the process is done) you need to apply for a Type D visa which allows you to enter Switzerland for more than 90 days. Providing the permit application is approved, your visa will be issued so it can be stamped in your passport. You'll then have a certain amount of time to return to Switzerland and take up residence here, usually it's about 3 months iirc that's the visa is valid for.

https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification-eu-efta

Note that a permit is not the same thing as a visa. A visa only allows you to enter Switzerland as a tourist, for business, etc. It's the permit which gives you the right to live and work here. You'll get the same permit type as your husband has.

One question though, why does he have only a one year B permit? EU nationals usually get a 5 year B permit, one year B permits are normally only issued to non-EU nationals.
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

Thank you for your answer.
His work contract is for one year,now when his bos met him,he want to give him contract for an indefinite period. As we know that is condition for B viza.
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How long for work permit for non-EU citizen?

Hello Everyone!
First of all, sorry, I tried to read many posts but I am lost, and most posts were quite old so I don't know how valid they are.

I am a non-EU citizen, I have been living in Germany for 7 years but this might not be really relevant. I am a scientist, I have a PhD in biology.

I had an interview with a company in Basel, I haven't heard their final decision yet but the chances are very high so I am trying to get some info.

Basically I would like to ask approximately how long it would take until my work permit is approved and I can start working? I also heard that permits for highly qualified people are almost never rejected, is that true? Any experiences?
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Re: How long for work permit for non-EU citizen?

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Hello Everyone!
First of all, sorry, I tried to read many posts but I am lost, and most posts were quite old so I don't know how valid they are.

I am a non-EU citizen, I have been living in Germany for 7 years but this might not be really relevant. I am a scientist, I have a PhD in biology.

I had an interview with a company in Basel, I haven't heard their final decision yet but the chances are very high so I am trying to get some info.

Basically I would like to ask approximately how long it would take until my work permit is approved and I can start working? I also heard that permits for highly qualified people are almost never rejected, is that true? Any experiences?
This may give you an idea.
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Re: How long for work permit for non-EU citizen?

It takes as long as it takes, every application is different. It can be as little as 3 weeks, but it can take a lot longer too.

"How long does it take from the moment when an application is made until one can enter in to Switzerland and start on the job?

Several authorities are involved in the permission granting procedure - Swiss diplomatic representations abroad, cantonal migration and employment services, and the State Secretariat for Migration. Given the multitude of agencies involved, there is no exact telling how long an individual procedure for granting work and residence permits may take. Regular cases requiring no or little extra inquiries (for instance, transfer of top managers to international business enterprises, top scientists) are usually handled within about three weeks, provided the documents submitted are complete. First-time applications by enterprises or in cases requiring particular inquiries may take some time to process."

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...rbeit/faq.html

The process for hiring non-EU nationals is here:

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...zulassung.html

and the cantonal/Federal procedure is outlined here:

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...ensablauf.html

It's not just whether you're highly qualified, it's also whether there is an equally qualified Swiss/EU national who could do the job. If there is, they will be hired and not you, so yes even highly qualified people can be rejected. But more often than not, companies looking to hire a non-EU already know that they probably can't find a Swiss/EU candidate which is why they're willing to go the time and expense of meeting the non-EU hiring criteria. Like everything else in life, there's no guarantee of either acceptance or refusal.

And yes, the fact that you've been living in Germany for 7 years is totally irrelevant as Switzerland isn't part of the EU.

Note that you also need to apply for a Type D visa to enter Switzerland long term legally if you do get the job if required by your nationality.

"I am a citizen of a non-EU/EFTA state in possession of an unlimited residence permit valid for an EU/EFTA state. Do I need visa to work in Switzerland?

Whether or not you possess a residence permit valid for an EU/EFTA state does not affect your status in Switzerland. You are subject to the same provisions on entry and work as people who enter Switzerland from a third state. As a rule, you will need to apply for an entry visa, which will be issued by the Swiss diplomatic representation abroad as soon as you have been granted a work permit."
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Re: Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.

If I enter Switzerland as a grad student with a one year student visa, then find employment and get a long term work permit, does the one year as a student count towards my 5 years of consecutive stay? I'm an American citizen.
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