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French marrying in Switzerland: question about french documents to provide

Hi folks,

I'm in a process of applying for wedding here in Switzerland. I had the list of documents to provide. I'm french living in Switzerland under B-permit.

My question is: do I need special legalization/apostile on my french documents to submit to Civil Registration Office for:
- my birth certificate
- my past wedding certificate and divorce judgment copies (need to provide these as divorced) ?

These documents are true copies delivered by french authority and court of law. I guess birth and wedding certificate can be taken as they are but I'm not sure for the divorce judgment copy.

Any idea ?

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Old 20.05.2010, 21:26
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Re: French marrying in Switzerland: question about french documents to provide

it should be specified on the list that you got from the registry office. My French fiance did not have to get those documents apostilled. But it probably depends on the kanton like everything else here, I would suggest just giving them a call if you are not sure. At least our local registry office has been most helpful.
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Re: French marrying in Switzerland: question about french documents to provide

I’m almost confident that documents will be recognized. It is not up to canton to decide, they can only accept or reject non-state language document, like some time docs in english accepted in Geneva or Zurich. So if as ullianga told it been accepted then that is on Federal level – mutual recognition conventions. It’s not working on all EU states, especially for UK and Cyprus as I know. There is some links here, in french, may be you will find more info.
http://www.cagi.ch/en/vie-pratique/v...-naissance.php

Also, hope it’s not your case but note that after divorce woman must wait for 300 days. That is new amendment to Swiss Law.
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that is correct, I'm from EU too and had to get everything apostilled. But as said, out list of documents that we got from the registry was very clear - who has to provide what, in which language and what form.
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Re: French marrying in Switzerland: question about french documents to provide

Keep in mind that the birth certificate needs to be issued in the last 6 months from the authorities, or at least that was the rule I had to abide by. The orginal birth certificate will generally not be acceptable.
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that is correct, I'm from EU too and had to get everything apostilled. But as said, out list of documents that we got from the registry was very clear - who has to provide what, in which language and what form.
Yeah, we got the same list, with very detailed descriptions of the documents (where to get it from -- she even added that in Hungarian! :P -- whether it needs to be stamped/translated, etc.), and it was very useful and straightforward. Also, if you contact them personally, they can answer any questions.

However, I do think it is a cantonal thing! I've heard of my fellow citizens doing it differently in another canton. But the basics are the same. In Geneva, with all the foreign capital and workforce flowing in, they're quite nice and not grumpy at all. So it was easy to follow their guidelines.

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Re: French marrying in Switzerland: question about french documents to provide

Thanks all for your usefull feedback

I did requested the needs to the office maybe 1 month ago. They didn't mentionned any apostille was required.

Further on, I checked on the french foreign minister website. According to the document (a general one about La Haye agreement, not something specific to marriage abroad) birth certificate and previous marriage cetificate are recognized as delivered by France. But for divorce judgment it is mentionned apostille which put some doubts on what they told me. I'll call again to confirm that point.
Hope I don't need to apostille it....Actually, my divorce date is also mentionned on both my birth certificate and previous marriage certificate (which are recognized straight) - maybe apostille is required to make the judgment legal here whereas providing a divorce judgment for wedding is to confirm i'm divorced, not to legalize or make the judgment apply here...

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Re: French marrying in Switzerland: question about french documents to provide

Hi, I can totally imagine that you don't need an apostille. In my experience it's needed for the verification of documents that don't meet Swiss standards. I mean birth certificates and the like from non-EU countries, etc. We didn't need an apostille on all our documents, so this means it's not country specific, more like document specific, and only matters when the truth of the document would be difficult to check for the Swiss authorities.
So I can imagine that you don't need one from FR, unless it's some really specific form.

But it's always best to ask them, I haven't really figured out the logic behind their decisions. There might not be any at all.

Let us know how it went. Good luck!
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Hi, I can totally imagine that you don't need an apostille. In my experience it's needed for the verification of documents that don't meet Swiss standards. I mean birth certificates and the like from non-EU countries, etc. We didn't need an apostille on all our documents, so this means it's not country specific, more like document specific, and only matters when the truth of the document would be difficult to check for the Swiss authorities.
So I can imagine that you don't need one from FR, unless it's some really specific form.

But it's always best to ask them, I haven't really figured out the logic behind their decisions. There might not be any at all.

Let us know how it went. Good luck!
Please refer to The Hague Convention: http://hcch.e-vision.nl/index_en.php....status&cid=41

Countries need not demand apostille for non-signatory countries, but neither are they bound to refrain from asking in such cases.
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Countries need not demand apostille for non-signatory countries, but neither are they bound to refrain from asking in such cases.
Well, this means... that they might or might not ask for it. =) But at least we know for sure about the countries involved.
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Re: French marrying in Switzerland: question about french documents to provide

I gave a call to civil registration office yesterday. They told me birth and wedding certificate are fine like they are delivered by France. I insisted on the divorce judgment and they asked me to confirm whether it is in french or not. I said yes. So they said it might be ok, don't seek for an apostille now...But they said I have to wait for them to contact me once my fiancée's paperwork will arrive from consulate to switzerland so that they will be able to deliver the official list of documents they need from me and that official clearance of docs will be done when they'll see them in real....It matches what I can see in the replies you posted guys: they'll check the docs and if it looks fine to them it will be OK...I'm now used in the process to get answer like: it should be....but it will be confirmed once actually processed (what I can understand...)...

I'll keep you posted on next steps !

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